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Mar 5, 2019 19:54:39   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
mas24 wrote:
Read my Post of February 24th, where one uhh member said he had to roll back the firmware, so that his Sigma 50mm lens would work properly. I won't mention the user name. I've never rolled back a firmware. And wouldn't know how to do it, if possible.


It seems to me, Mas - on one of my cameras, I've seen a line which reads - Remove Last Update.

Can't think, now, though, for the life of me - which one that was … I'll take a look …

But, you know … I've NEVER done a firmware update. a) none have been needed b) I'm a little concerned about doing one, as, if someone calls, and knocks me off-line, during - it could really mess up the camera!

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Mar 5, 2019 21:17:03   #
billbarcus Loc: IPNW
 
Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 ----------------- Best of the Best. Buy no substitutes or third-world lenses for your Nikon!

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Mar 5, 2019 21:19:28   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Chris T wrote:
It seems to me, Mas - on one of my cameras, I've seen a line which reads - Remove Last Update.

Can't think, now, though, for the life of me - which one that was … I'll take a look …

But, you know … I've NEVER done a firmware update. a) none have been needed b) I'm a little concerned about doing one, as, if someone calls, and knocks me off-line, during - it could really mess up the camera!


You still have dial-up? 😳😜🤪

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Mar 5, 2019 21:32:51   #
User ID
 
mas24 wrote:
Read my Post of February 24th, where one uhh member said he had to roll back the firmware, so that his Sigma 50mm lens would work properly. I won't mention the user name. I've never rolled back a firmware. And wouldn't know how to do it, if possible.


This thread begins march 4th ... ?

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Mar 5, 2019 23:42:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Chris T wrote:
Bill … is / was - that a decent lens, or is the 24-70 a few notches above?


Yes, the 28-75 f/2.8 is quite decent, especially at that price ($500 or so). But the 24-70 G2 is better.

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Mar 6, 2019 00:24:04   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You still have dial-up? 😳😜🤪


It's a hazard, I've learned to live with. But, it's either this, Fly, or nothing …

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Mar 6, 2019 00:26:53   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
User ID wrote:
This thread begins march 4th ... ?

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There's a certain redundancy … which is the theme of many posts here, USER … one tends to roll with it!

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Mar 6, 2019 00:30:55   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yes, the 28-75 f/2.8 is quite decent, especially at that price ($500 or so). But the 24-70 G2 is better.


And so it should be, Bill - for another $700 more … Hey - you could buy TWO for the same price - one for Nikon F, and one for EOS … then, you'd have the best of BOTH worlds, huh, Bill?

And, for another $900 - you'd be able to buy one more for Pentax K, and yet another for Sony a-mount!!!

Hmmmmm … sounds like a heap good idea, Kemo Sabe ….

Hiyo, Silver !!!!! ….

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Mar 6, 2019 01:41:54   #
User ID
 
Chris T wrote:

There's a certain redundancy … which is the theme of
many posts here, USER … one tends to roll with it!


I was willing to review his post of 25 feb as he
had suggested. But I'm not gonna WORK for it.

If it's not inside this thread, and he has posted
no link, beats me why he thinks I'm gonna run
a search to read his post. Thaz all that I meant
in my reply about the date. Redundancy as you
point out is not intriguing enuf to hunt it down.

UHH has 426.83 gazillion posts, and counting.
In all my time here I have learned exactly one
new useful thing, altho not so important that I
can actually remember what it is ATM. Really,
one outa 426.83 gazillion. No need to tell me
about redundancy :-)

OTOH, I am here mainly for the entertainment
[thank you, in particular] and IIRC it was those
ancient Greek thespians who said there's really
just seven different stories to tell. You can alter
the details and the characters, and create new
dialog, but it's those seven, over and over and
over and over .....

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Mar 6, 2019 02:49:22   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
User ID wrote:
I was willing to review his post of 25 feb as he
had suggested. But I'm not gonna WORK for it.

If it's not inside this thread, and he has posted
no link, beats me why he thinks I'm gonna run
a search to read his post. Thaz all that I meant
in my reply about the date. Redundancy as you
point out is not intriguing enuf to hunt it down.

UHH has 426.83 gazillion posts, and counting.
In all my time here I have learned exactly one
new useful thing, altho not so important that I
can actually remember what it is ATM. Really,
one outa 426.83 gazillion. No need to tell me
about redundancy :-)

OTOH, I am here mainly for the entertainment
[thank you, in particular] and IIRC it was those
ancient Greek thespians who said there's really
just seven different stories to tell. You can alter
the details and the characters, and create new
dialog, but it's those seven, over and over and
over and over .....

.
I was willing to review his post of 25 feb as he ... (show quote)


All I can think of, USER, ATM - is the one about the young guy who kills his father, so he can wed his mother - actually, cannot think - for the life of me - how many thousands of times THAT one's been retold! Come to think of it … don't think it really HAS been done so very often. Although, something like that was done by Shakespeare in Hamlet. … Well, not the same, actually - but similar in a way. At least, he winds up killing his step-father. But, not wedding his mother, exactly. Come to think of it - didn't they ALL die at the end? … Oh, maybe not Horatio … but, still … / er - Antigone, was it? .. Or - Orpheus?

426.83 Gazillion posts, have there been at UHH, USER? ... Seems like a pretty factual number, since you mentioned it three times. Still haven't quite figured out what a "Gazillion" is, though. Is that MORE than a billion, or less? ... Hmmmmm ... all those words I haven't even realized - were in the dictionary, already!

I know what you mean, though, USER. I brought up the Watched Topic List about an hour ago, to see if there was anything I'd missed on any of my recently-entered four Topic Posts - all simultaneously put up a few days ago - and the thing dropped out on me. So, I went back to the beginning of the ALL Topic Posts List - which begins with Admin's various notes on what to post, and what NOT to post, and intrigued on the idea we could post most anything we wished to - as long it fit the theme of the Forum, and was not, in any way, tasteless (some more recent ones - definitely - went astray of this) and then - continued on down to the active topics, and became quite dismayed to find I was on the THIRD page of the active topics before I stumbled across the one I was looking for - which I had noticed from my Watched Topic list - was posted at just after 4pm today (yesterday, now) but, still - less than 12 hours ago, now ... so I do realize your number of 426.83 Gazillion posts, is not really - Off the Mark - shall we say. I see - only approximately 25 are highlighted every day in the Main Photography Discussion in the Daily Digest, and I have it on Good Authority from another member here, at least TWO fellas post exactly the same series of photos in the Gallery every single day - so that may have something to do with it. At least, my topics - when I post them - (which is now, on a lot lesser regularity than I used to - a year ago - then, there were two new ones, every day) - are NOT redundant - although several folks here brought me to task on one I did more recently - which seemed to echo one done a year, ago - but even though it had a different slant than the one from a year ago - some were quick to point out it was essentially the same post - even employing some of the same wording ... all I can think is - it's easy to make the same analogies - when you've done something similar, before. But, this is one of the foibles of a Forum - where the same, or similar topics, are posted every single day. Nowadays, I may only post two new ones, every two or three days ... but when I do - I still get a tongue-lashing from several other members here, so - it's quite understandable, why I don't do it so much, anymore. All of this negativity can really get one down ....

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Mar 6, 2019 05:00:25   #
Largobob
 
abc1234 wrote:
Sometimes the differences though real do not really matter in practice. Perhaps Canon and Nikon are behind the times or want you to send in the lenses so they can make more money?


Perhaps....when pigs can fly. "There is a sucker born every minute (P.T. Barnum)."

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Mar 6, 2019 12:00:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Chris T wrote:
And so it should be, Bill - for another $700 more … Hey - you could buy TWO for the same price - one for Nikon F, and one for EOS … then, you'd have the best of BOTH worlds, huh, Bill?

And, for another $900 - you'd be able to buy one more for Pentax K, and yet another for Sony a-mount!!!

Hmmmmm … sounds like a heap good idea, Kemo Sabe ….

Hiyo, Silver !!!!! ….
And so it should be, Bill - for another $700 more ... (show quote)


When I was doing training program development for the portrait company, I had a Nikon version of the Tamron 28-75 mounted on a D70 that I used to document all our Canons using the Canon version of the Tamron 28-75. (We used Canons for their skin tones and their excellent and FREE tethering software, EOS Utility. We could also put custom portrait masks in the viewfinders of the Canons a lot easier.)

We were a Tamron dealer on our wholesale photofinishing side of the house, and used that fact to buy the lenses for our retail studios at a lower net cost. A Tamron rep would show up at most of our professional wholesale photofinishing events as well as our school portrait sales meetings. He found it very productive.

The 24-75 f/2.8 XR Di II has always been a very good lens. It is very sharp and well-corrected from f/4 to f/8 on APS-C cameras. Unfortunately, it has an f/32 setting, which proved painful for a few of our less enlightened photographers who achieved infinite depth of field, simultaneously with hideous diffraction diffusion*. They had the audacity to tell us the lenses were defective, when the only "defective" thing was their gullibility to believe f/32 was an appropriate aperture! (It had been okay on their 8x10 view cameras, where they regularly used f/64.)

*I wouldn't use any lens at f/11 to f/32 on APS-C, or at f/16 to f/32 on full frame cameras with 16MP or higher density sensors... unless absolutely necessary. On my Micro 4/3 lenses, I like f/1.2 to f/5.6, and won't go smaller than f/8 unless absolutely necessary.

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Mar 6, 2019 12:15:03   #
k2edm Loc: FN32AD
 
burkphoto wrote:
, it has an f/32 setting, which proved painful for a few of our less enlightened photographers who achieved infinite depth of field, simultaneously with hideous diffraction diffusion*.

would you explain dif/diffusion? TU Ed

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Mar 6, 2019 12:54:13   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
burkphoto wrote:
When I was doing training program development for the portrait company, I had a Nikon version of the Tamron 28-75 mounted on a D70 that I used to document all our Canons using the Canon version of the Tamron 28-75. (We used Canons for their skin tones and their excellent and FREE tethering software, EOS Utility. We could also put custom portrait masks in the viewfinders of the Canons a lot easier.)

We were a Tamron dealer on our wholesale photofinishing side of the house, and used that fact to buy the lenses for our retail studios at a lower net cost. A Tamron rep would show up at most of our professional wholesale photofinishing events as well as our school portrait sales meetings. He found it very productive.

The 24-75 f/2.8 XR Di II has always been a very good lens. It is very sharp and well-corrected from f/4 to f/8 on APS-C cameras. Unfortunately, it has an f/32 setting, which proved painful for a few of our less enlightened photographers who achieved infinite depth of field, simultaneously with hideous diffraction diffusion*. They had the audacity to tell us the lenses were defective, when the only "defective" thing was their gullibility to believe f/32 was an appropriate aperture! (It had been okay on their 8x10 view cameras, where they regularly used f/64.)

*I wouldn't use any lens at f/11 to f/32 on APS-C, or at f/16 to f/32 on full frame cameras with 16MP or higher density sensors... unless absolutely necessary. On my Micro 4/3 lenses, I like f/1.2 to f/5.6, and won't go smaller than f/8 unless absolutely necessary.
When I was doing training program development for ... (show quote)


Oh, I beg to differ, there, Bill … I don't have anything BUT APS-C … and I regularly use f11-f16 … I don't find any "diffraction diffusion" on any of my lenses, but then, I don't currently have that SP 28-75 either!

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Mar 6, 2019 14:25:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Chris T wrote:
Oh, I beg to differ, there, Bill … I don't have anything BUT APS-C … and I regularly use f11-f16 … I don't find any "diffraction diffusion" on any of my lenses, but then, I don't currently have that SP 28-75 either!


On 15-18MP Canons, I can just start to see diffraction at f/8. By f/16, it is enough to annoy me. f/22 and f/32 are not kind to sharpness.

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