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Mar 1, 2019 12:15:28   #
Redmond Loc: Oregon
 
Thank you for the information loved the pictures

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Mar 1, 2019 14:36:27   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Great set, Paul.

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Mar 1, 2019 14:59:55   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
Excellent, love the first one! Info was excellent as well.

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Mar 1, 2019 21:22:08   #
Pysanka Artist Loc: Rochester, NY
 
Love this series. Also love these particular images. I feel I am right there gazing at the animals.

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Mar 2, 2019 09:53:46   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
Paul....you need to publish your shots and methods as they are worth a lot to many of us and I think you would do very well in short order....like Mr. Rockwell who , like yourself , does exquisite work.

BRAVO


Thank you Blair! Hopefully, you've read many of Rockwell's how-to guides where he had a lot of great content. I admire his work where I find we overlap in style in many ways, although we use different approaches. However, I don't aspire to open / operate a website as a business. There's already several I enjoy, more than I can read / following on a regular basis. My ideas for longer posts here at UHH mimic some of their efforts without trying to turn that effort into a business and the copyright protection of the content. Glad you've enjoyed.

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Mar 2, 2019 10:05:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Pysanka Artist wrote:
Love this series. Also love these particular images. I feel I am right there gazing at the animals.


Thank you Linda! These are the types of views of animals / insects that I admire in other's work and strive to achieve in my own work. The Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago, where many of these animals are found, has many displays with no glass barriers and a nearness to the animals allowing for this type of photography, with just the need to work at higher ISOs being indoors and in somewhat dim light without an option for flash.

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Mar 2, 2019 10:06:27   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Thank you catchlight, bmac, Ken, Swamp-Cork, Jack, nimbushopper, Jerry G, Jimmy, olemikey, CanonTom, olemikey, readingdoc, Vicki, Redmond, Earnest, Photolady2014! I think many times that we're now experiencing a golden age of photography, where the equipment does things that was generally impossible or otherwise limited to the top-tier bodies just a few years ago. My first DLSR was mostly worthless above ISO-800. The next one really wasn't worth the effort above ISO-2000. Over the years I've learned a lot more about the importance of the lenses and how shooting technique can be used to bring the light and the equipment together for low-light results. Glad you've enjoyed this series and the results.

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Mar 3, 2019 04:07:17   #
doNewell
 
Beautiful results..

And I never heard of a "Violaceous Turaco" before,
but I'll never forget it!

'Honey,.... I'm feeling...
.....a bit
..........violaceous
...........................tonight..."

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Mar 3, 2019 09:37:13   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
doNewell wrote:
Beautiful results..

And I never heard of a "Violaceous Turaco" before,
but I'll never forget it!

'Honey,.... I'm feeling...
.....a bit
..........violaceous
...........................tonight..."


Thank you doNewell! The bird is / was relatively new to the aviary at the Lincoln Park Zoo when this image was captured. The keepers said with all the new additions, the birds were all more active sorting out the hierarchies and favored positions. This guy took a position for this close image. I've never seen this bird this close ever again, even when with a 420mm configuration.

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Mar 4, 2019 10:05:02   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
Another great informative post, Paul. I look forward to seeing what you have next every time I read one.

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Mar 5, 2019 11:44:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DaveJ wrote:
Another great informative post, Paul. I look forward to seeing what you have next every time I read one.


Thank you Dave! For a well written article on ISO invariance, here's a useful link: https://photographylife.com/iso-invariance-explained
(Just to make things more confusing )

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Dec 24, 2023 20:30:44   #
lukevaliant Loc: gloucester city,n. j.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
In every situation where I need to move off of ISO-100, I seek to maximum the exposure via the shutterspeed and aperture before finally adjusting the ISO. The images shown here at ISO-5000, and earlier examples at ISO-4000 and ISO-3200, are based on extensive practice using each of the bodies in low light situations and then processing the resulting image files. The full exposure and equipment details of each image are available from the host Flickr page via the URL titles above the image.

Canon EOS 5D mark III @ ISO-5000

Meerkat by Paul Sager, on Flickr


I try for the slowest shutter possible for the desired aperture, sometimes pushing the boundary of what is possible, many times missing. For birds in flight, I'll try working with 1/1200 to as slow as 1/800, particularly if I'm not in full sunlight. The goal being to maximize the light hitting the sensor before needing to raise the ISO. I'll also try to balance the aperture size, balancing between a depth of field, sharpness at certain apertures, and again, letting more (or less) light to reach the sensor. The last adjustment is the ISO needed to push the resulting image to the right of the histogram.

How high is too high? These examples show my own personal ISO-5000 limit for an EOS 5DIII. When cleaning the noise at higher ISO settings on this model, I lose too much of the detail of the image for settings above ISO-5000. Possibly other tools / techniques could raise that threshold, but I haven't found a low-light shooting situation where I need to push this body to a higher ISO to obtain the desired result.

Scarlet Mormon


When shooting JPEG, your primary noise reduction tool is the capabilities of your camera. You can also post process these JPEG images to further improve the result.

The images shown in this High ISO series are all processed RAW files. Although I strive for pretty good, I'm not striving for perfection. As a result, my tools (the cameras, lenses and software) are a balance of how much I want to spend in dollars and in time. Buying more and more software and always the newest body is an arms race I try to avoid. My advice is to find a shooting and processing style that fits your desired level of effort and your desired level of expense. My approach using Adobe Lightroom and Topaz Denoise works for me, whether working on 1 image or a batch of 50. The process can be cumbersome where it would be much more efficient to be able to "swap out" the LR noise module and replace directly with Topaz, probably not something Adobe would support.

White-naped crane


There are several software tools available for noise processing, with several now rated as more powerful than Topaz DeNoise6 used for these images. The ETTR technique mentioned in this series seeks to maximize the image data in the RAW file while minimizing the random digital noise associated with higher ISO values. I try to address digital noise during the RAW image capture and at multiple steps through the digital processing workflow. My own workflow has grown organically over the past 14-years based on research and practicing and developing my shooting technique and processing technique. The use of other camera types and software would likely lead to a different but similar digital workflow.

Hopefully, this series of images shows a consistency of results across multiple cameras and multiple lenses over multiple years of shooting. Part of the consistency comes from the person handling the camera and running the keyboard. But also, the RAW files are always "fresh" where updates to software and / or processing technique can be used to revisit an older image. I've screwed up many of my oldest JPEGs over the years where today, the best I can do to re-process something that exists only as JPEG is to work with / to work around the edits permanently made to the file. The RAW file cannot be changed in a way that permanently alters the file or image. I can always start over again with the RAW file as if it was shot this morning.

The one thing I can't do to the RAW file is go back in time and reshoot with a better exposure. The Scarlet Mormon butterfly, above in this post, replaced another version originally selected as one of the ISO-5000 examples. When compared to the other three images shown here, I found the butterfly image was too noisy. So I tried to reprocess and over five separate tries, I couldn't get the noise in the image to "look better". But, while filtering within my LR catalog, I found a better example that is the one used in this post. The difference between the two versions was about 10-minutes clock time and more importantly, the better image was shot at 1/320 where the problem image was 1/640, both at f/8 and ISO-5000. Based on the wing damage, the images seem to be of the same butterfly. I use this example to prove the rule of: maximize the data to maximize the results.

Violaceous Turaco


Earlier posts in this series

Shooting at high ISOs (ISO-3200)
Shooting at high ISOs (ISO-4000)

These images are sized to fill your wide-screen display. Try using <F11> to maximize your browser window for the full effect. If the images overshoot your display, such as a laptop, just click on the image or the URL link and they'll resize to your screen from the host Flickr site. You can click a bit further into the image details on the Flickr page, if desired. EXIF data is available from the host Flickr pages as well. On the Flickr site, use your <L>key for Large and the <F11> for the full-screen.

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In every situation where I need to move off of ISO... (show quote)


thanks paul, very useful

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Dec 27, 2023 15:23:14   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
lukevaliant wrote:
thanks paul, very useful


Thank you lukevaliant, glad to help!

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