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GOP Platform Plans Constitutional amendment prohibiting Abortions, No exception for incest or Rape
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Aug 26, 2012 01:25:51   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
It's not belittling, It's the truth!

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Aug 26, 2012 02:43:55   #
lachmap Loc: Sydney Australia
 
bvm wrote:
It's not belittling, It's the truth!


Huh? See what I mean?

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Aug 26, 2012 12:14:16   #
photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
docrob wrote:
johnr9999 wrote:
photosbysexton wrote:
docrob wrote:
That was a heartless, compassionless statement toward A LIVING BEING! I agree that compassion is not just for any one religious sect or belief. All people should have compassion for their fellow humans, including the unborn children who were murdered before having a chance to be functioning members of society. And I agree, I do not have compassion for the dead, because if they have lived their lives by Gods way, then they are in a better place. If they have chosen to live their lives with their backs turned on God, believing that anything is acceptable, then God will turn His back on them, and let their souls burn in the eternal pit of Hell. The only comfort that comes from a childs life being cut short before birth is that the child has not had the opportunity to be corrupted by the world.
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Hmmmm.....and I think you could also say based on your beliefs that the babie's chance of burning in eternal Hell has also been mitigated........sort of a 2 fer 1 you might say.

As for compassion - your right I have none for photosexton but then I did not hear or read that photosexton was asking for compassion - for her/himself. And in any case, my compassion would be for photosexton's mother - who was 15 - gang raped then lived with that and with knowing that the men who raped her were still around. Can you imagine her fears? Her horror? And how that experience tore her up in all ways - her entire life?

Oddly enough photosexton didn't really say anything about mom - about her life - about what it was like for her.
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You are correct, I did not ask for compassion from you, nor did I come back to my question as to how one could be so cruel in their replies. However, as racer pointed out, education has a tendecy to convince some that they are superior to those who are assumed to not have it.

And, my mother happily raised 8 of us. Me, and 7 younger sisters. She lived a happy but short life, passing at the age of 47. My compassion and views on this subject come from protecting and respecting my beautiful mother and those girls. Women will always have my utmost respect and my mother most of all for allowing me the chance to succeed in spite of the way I was brought into this world. By the way, I never said that these animals were still around. I said that the law never caught them. My mother never had to fear that these beasts would do this again, to her or anyone else.

That said, respecting women will never allow me to believe that abortion is anything less than murder.
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Photosexton,
When I read your account I felt immediate compassion for you, sadness for your mother and now, joy in how you turned out and how your mother overcame her tragedy. To me, docrob seems the very essence of the self educated, semi-intellectual, effete snobs that due to their own deficiencies denigrate others. Abortion is murder. You are the example of why it should be avoided. I celebrate your life.
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compassion is for all - yeah even simi-intellectual effete snobs - who just like you also have our own deficiencies or is it just limited to those who tell a good story and elicit a few sobs?

Any way glad I can be the scape goat for all this. And you can sleep better at night knowing your in the right and all is right with the world and little babies never die of hunger or thirst......

And god keeps his eye on us all........[/quote]

docrob, my "story" was never intended to invoke a sob, but to explain the reason for my stance on abortion. Your comments regarding my initial statement were percieved as being cruel and demeaning. Whether this was your intention, I have no idea, but I have a wonderful life despite my little ol' School of Hark Knocks education, military service, and the circumstances of my existence. My apologies if mine or anyone else's comments made you feel that it was necessary to proclaim yourself a scape goat.

The article in the Huffington Post (which I believe to be the reason for the initial post in this thread) is bs, fabricated and blown way out of proportion over a slip of the tongue by (from what I've read) a good man and a good servant of the people. It's unfortunate that the Obama camp and thier supporterss are relying on the stupidity of the American people to believe the hogwash that comes from this rag and other media like it. More troubling is the fact that they cannot run on their record and have only mud-slinging as the basis for their entire campaign. An amendment prohibiting abortions would never make it past the secretary of the person who wrote it, much less get the votes required to pass it. Anyone that could for one second believe that this is the platform of the GOP is the exact target for these lies and deserve the disrespect that the DNC is affording them.

That said; In my uneducated opinion, abortion should never be an issue in an election and should never, ever be controlled by our government. Nor should it, or contreception ever be covered by a taxpayer provided health insurance plan. Who in any branch of our government is anywhere near being qualified to make decisions concerning our health care? Our "leaders" are out of control by even suggesting these things. At what point in history did we allow them to believe that we are too stupid to make our own decisions and be responsible for ourselves? How far do they have to go before good people stand up and say "enough is enough"? What lines do they have to cross?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism, 'they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform." Norman Thomas, 6 time Socialist Party candidate, 1944.

Make your claim that this statement is a fabrication and you've proven to me that whatever side of the fence you ride, is what you'll believe. However, if you look at the incrimental steps taken over the past 80 years, his theory could be proven true.

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Aug 26, 2012 12:30:19   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
photosbysexton wrote:


That said; In my uneducated opinion, abortion should never be an issue in an election and should never, ever be controlled by our government. Nor should it, or contreception ever be covered by a taxpayer provided health insurance plan.


Do you feel the same way about Viagara? I have found that a lot of Republicans want to ban paying for contraceptives but lordy lordy they need their little blue woody pills.

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Aug 26, 2012 12:36:08   #
photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
At this moment in time dear sir, at 50 (almost), I don't need it, but when the time arises, I will gladly pay for that little blue pill out of my own pocket. Or, I may ask my bride to take a second job as this purchase would really be for her now, wouldn't it?

I was wondering when you would chime in neighbor. LOL

tschmath wrote:
photosbysexton wrote:


That said; In my uneducated opinion, abortion should never be an issue in an election and should never, ever be controlled by our government. Nor should it, or contreception ever be covered by a taxpayer provided health insurance plan.


Do you feel the same way about Viagara? I have found that a lot of Republicans want to ban paying for contraceptives but lordy lordy they need their little blue woody pills.

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Aug 26, 2012 12:42:19   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
photosbysexton wrote:
At this moment in time dear sir, at 50 (almost), I don't need it, but when the time arises, I will gladly pay for that little blue pill out of my own pocket. Or, I may ask my bride to take a second job as this purchase would really be for her now, wouldn't it?
in neighbor. LOL


C,mon, who is kidding who? It would be for her? Yeah, riiiiiiiight! :-D :-D :-D

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Aug 26, 2012 12:45:56   #
Gnslngr
 
wbym300 wrote:
I do not believe I could stand before God on judgement day and argue the benefits of a pro choice agenda. Not because of my own worthless hide but life is his realm and who am I to second guess his providence.


Don't worry, you won't have to. When you die, at that glorious moment when the world becomes clear, you will find that everything you believed about religion and "god" was bullhockey.

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Aug 26, 2012 12:50:54   #
rrforster12 Loc: Leesburg Florida
 
One thing for sure......we will all find out if there is a God a moment after "death", then....what if you were wrong ?
I'm just saying.....

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Aug 26, 2012 12:55:18   #
photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
Hey, I don't know about you, but she is the one that makes good use of that tool. My pleasure is just the icing on the cake and what helps put me to sleep afterwards, my friend.

tschmath wrote:
photosbysexton wrote:
At this moment in time dear sir, at 50 (almost), I don't need it, but when the time arises, I will gladly pay for that little blue pill out of my own pocket. Or, I may ask my bride to take a second job as this purchase would really be for her now, wouldn't it?
in neighbor. LOL


C,mon, who is kidding who? It would be for her? Yeah, riiiiiiiight! :-D :-D :-D

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Aug 26, 2012 13:04:41   #
wbym300 Loc: Wisconsin
 
Gnslngr,In your eyes the world is devoid of God, thats your opinion. But what if you are not right...of course I can't say I told you so. I won't be there.

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Aug 26, 2012 13:18:18   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
wbym300 wrote:
Gnslngr,In your eyes the world is devoid of God, thats your opinion. But what if you are not right...of course I can't say I told you so. I won't be there.

And if Gnslngr is right, you won't be there, either.

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Aug 26, 2012 13:30:54   #
photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
RMM wrote:
wbym300 wrote:
Gnslngr,In your eyes the world is devoid of God, thats your opinion. But what if you are not right...of course I can't say I told you so. I won't be there.

And if Gnslngr is right, you won't be there, either.


Just wondering how many others would rather err on the side of God.

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Aug 26, 2012 15:50:08   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
photosbysexton wrote:
Just wondering how many others would rather err on the side of God.

Are we talking about conviction, or just playing the odds?

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Aug 26, 2012 18:01:40   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
photosbysexton wrote:
Just wondering how many others would rather err on the side of God.


Here's the thing for me. The New Testament portrays god as a benevolent, caring god. For the sake of discussion, assume I don't believe in him. But my life is lived in virtue for virtue's sake. I am a steward of the earth, I help the downtrodden. But I just cannot seem to get my arms around the concept of a Supreme Being.

So one day I die, and, lo and behold, I find out I was wrong. Does anyone think that this loving god of the Christian world would deny me access to an eternal reward simply because my feeble mind could not grasp the totality of the concept of God?

Or, put another way. I spent my life working side by side with Mother Teresa. We ministered to the poor every day, feeding and clothing the wretched masses. The only difference is that she accepted Jesus as her Saviour, and I didn't. Do you really think he'd welcome her with open arms and shut me out of Heaven? If you do, it doesn't sound like a very loving, benevolent God to me.

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Aug 26, 2012 18:37:00   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
tschmath wrote:
photosbysexton wrote:
Just wondering how many others would rather err on the side of God.


Here's the thing for me. The New Testament portrays god as a benevolent, caring god. For the sake of discussion, assume I don't believe in him. But my life is lived in virtue for virtue's sake. I am a steward of the earth, I help the downtrodden. But I just cannot seem to get my arms around the concept of a Supreme Being.

So one day I die, and, lo and behold, I find out I was wrong. Does anyone thing that this loving god of the Christian world would deny me access to an eternal reward simply because my feeble mind could not grasp the totality of the concept of God?

Or, put another way. I spent my life working side by side with Mother Teresa. We ministered to the poor every day, feeding and clothing the wretched masses. The only difference is that she accepted Jesus as her Saviour, and I didn't. Do you really think he'd welcome her with open arms and shut me out of Heaven? If you do, it doesn't sound like a very loving, benevolent God to me.
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Well what makes you think Jesus could afford to live in LA no less California. Plus who would live in a state that is going bankrupt city by city ( actually the whole state )

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