Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
Math Test
Page <<first <prev 7 of 11 next> last>>
Feb 22, 2019 20:13:25   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Dannj wrote:
Did you use a formula for this? I got the same result by a brief trial and error approach. Started with each son getting 1250 and adjusting from there.


I set x=wife, 2x=daughter, and 6x=son and total is 1x + 4(2x) + 5(6x) = 8000, and 39x = 8000 and x = 205.128approx.

Yours was a good initial guess...

Dik

Reply
Feb 22, 2019 20:24:17   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Dannj wrote:
Respectfully disagree. The order of operations takes precedence regardless. It’s 12.


Perhaps in New Math, but not in logic.

Reply
Feb 22, 2019 20:39:51   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
Shellback wrote:
PEMDAS or
Parentheses
Exponents
Multiplication
Division
Addition
Subtraction

Start Divide/Multiply from left side to right side since they perform equally.

Start Add/Subtract from left side to right side since they perform equally.

First part of an equation is start solving inside the 'Brackets'.
Example; (6 + 4) × 5
First solve inside ‘brackets’ 6 + 4 = 10, then 10 × 5 = 50.


So answer for 3+3*3-3+3 = 12

Multiplication
3*3=9
=
3+9-3+3

Addition
3+9=12
=
12-3+3=15-3

Subtraction
15-3=12

Hence the answer is 12
PEMDAS or br Parentheses br Exponents br Multip... (show quote)


That's how I saw it using my limited skills learned in the 1970s. If there are no parentheses do the multiplication and or division first then the addition/subtraction.

Reply
 
 
Feb 22, 2019 20:44:35   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This type of computation drives a friend of mine crazy, and he refuses to accept the correct answer.


Multiplication and division is always done before addition and subtraction.

Answer is 12.

Reply
Feb 22, 2019 20:50:44   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
DeanS wrote:
Perhaps in New Math, but not in logic.


From Wiki:

1646 - In Van Schooten's 1646 edition of Vieta, B in D quad. + B in D is used to represent B(D^2 + BD).

1800s - The term "order of operations" was starting to get used in textbooks. It was used more by textbooks than mathematicians. The mathematicians mostly just agreed without feeling the need to state anything official.

1920s - In this time period, the mathematicians were debating about whether or not multiplication should take precedence over division. Although they'd still argue over who won this argument, today it's become most common (and taught predominantly) that multiplication and division are equal, read from left to right. The reasoning is to keep it simple and to let the parentheses do it's thing!

Dik

Reply
Feb 22, 2019 21:33:17   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
DeanS wrote:
Perhaps in New Math, but not in logic.


Even with 'old math'.

Reply
Feb 22, 2019 21:49:21   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
DanielB wrote:
Photography rules, math drools.


Without math photography would not even exist.

Reply
 
 
Feb 22, 2019 21:50:00   #
Dannj
 
DeanS wrote:
Perhaps in New Math, but not in logic.


Well, I thought the term “New Math” came and went several decades ago and we could continue to go back and forth on this but I don’t see the point. I’ll stick with 12.

Reply
Feb 22, 2019 21:57:47   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Maybe I should put up a pic of me in a tux playing my sax.



Ohhhh... I love sax and violins...

Dik

Reply
Feb 23, 2019 00:26:51   #
drmike99 Loc: Fairfield Connecticut
 
cdayton wrote:
Best answer but what’s the question?


No one knows. The earth was destroyed too soon.

Reply
Feb 23, 2019 01:18:58   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
12 multiplication takes prescidence over addition and substraction. 3x3=9+3=12-3=9+3=12

Reply
 
 
Feb 23, 2019 01:31:27   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Dannj wrote:
Well, I thought the term “New Math” came and went several decades ago and we could continue to go back and forth on this but I don’t see the point. I’ll stick with 12.


New Math isn't relevant... a bit of a 'red herring'.

Dik

Reply
Feb 23, 2019 01:42:44   #
Tex-s
 
Shellback wrote:
PEMDAS or
Parentheses
Exponents
Multiplication
Division
Addition
Subtraction

Start Divide/Multiply from left side to right side since they perform equally.

Start Add/Subtract from left side to right side since they perform equally.

First part of an equation is start solving inside the 'Brackets'.
Example; (6 + 4) × 5
First solve inside ‘brackets’ 6 + 4 = 10, then 10 × 5 = 50.


So answer for 3+3*3-3+3 = 12

Multiplication
3*3=9
=
3+9-3+3

Addition
3+9=12
=
12-3+3=15-3

Subtraction
15-3=12

Hence the answer is 12
PEMDAS or br Parentheses br Exponents br Multip... (show quote)


I'm a math teacher, and I rename PEMDAS as GEMDAS for my upper level kids, as Grouping elements of all kinds must be a priority.... () [] {} numerators, denominators, and radicals all have to be accounted before moving on...... :)

Reply
Feb 23, 2019 06:57:26   #
Dannj
 
markngolf wrote:
Without math photography would not even exist.


Nor would music😊

Reply
Feb 23, 2019 08:00:59   #
Stephan G
 
markngolf wrote:
Yes, of course. However, those components are not needed to simplify the expression.
Mark


Or crumple up the paper the problem is written on.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 7 of 11 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.