Ava'sPapa wrote:
When I enlarged the second one, I liked it quite a bit. I think the OP was looking for "constructive" criticism.
I thought he was asking if both were considered photographs.
Ava'sPapa wrote:
I think the OP was looking for "constructive" criticism.
Re-read the title of the topic. This is a subject that comes up often for discussion, but there is no answer
Delderby wrote:
Well, #1 is a photograph - but what about #2?
Both are photographs. Post Processing alters the reality of the original as shown in number 2.
Delderby wrote:
Thanks to all who have replied. I was / am looking for a point at which PP might prevent a picture being thought of as a photograph?
Well, if a “photograph” is defined as “a picture taken by a camera” once it’s changed...the first click in the modification process...it’s no longer a “photograph” unless we attach an adjective to it. “Edited”, “re-touched”, or “photoshopped”, in today’s vernacular., are some positive examples. “Doctored” also works but that has a negative connotation.
By the same thing token, what about a “pizza”? Generally, a “pizza” is dough, tomato sauce and cheese. If we modify it by adding pepperoni is it still a “pizza”?
MrBob
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The question was answered with the question itself..... The OP referenced BOTH of these as "PICS" in his initial question; a PIC, in the context of this forum, is a photographed image.... A Photograph is by definition an image captured by a camera. We are now on page 2; how far into the weeds do you think us talking avatars " With nothing better to do all day " will take this ?
MrBob wrote:
... We are now on page 2; how far into the weeds do you think us talking avatars " With nothing better to do all day " will take this ?
"Did you bokeh my child" is currently at eight pages. "A Theoretical Question - How Many Focal Points are TOO Many?" is at 13 pages. Topic length is all relative on UHH 🙄
Delderby wrote:
Thanks to all who have replied. I was / am looking for a point at which PP might prevent a picture being thought of as a photograph?
You have reached that point. Even though your photos are both considered photography, the first one would be considered normal photography, reality, while the second one would be considered art, removed from reality through post processing.
A photograph is an event created by light interacting with a light sensitive media. Get over it!
Next thing you will argue is if a painting needs paint. Or a sculpture needs -- sculpt!
Good question. A camera is a tool. It can be used in the traditional sense, or as the source for the sketch which generates the painting.
Delderby wrote:
Well, #1 is a photograph - but what about #2?
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Both are photographs.
Then we can delve into the the adjectives that can be placed before the term. This is the point where we can be very tangential in our personal interpretation with use of such adjective.
I enjoy going to art galleries for picking up new and arbitrary descriptions. One of the best ones came from a six year old. "It is a pretty picture."
At my club and in area competitions, the second falls into the digital manipulation category.
I would call the second one "photo-based digital art." What you call something only matters if it's entered into a contest or an exhibit where categorizing the artwork is important.
It's similar to the age-old arguments about different means of painting.
AzPicLady wrote:
...It's similar to the age-old arguments about different means of painting.
One finger or two?
Sorry. I just had to daub into this one.
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