Would you consider both these Pics to be photographs?
Feb 21, 2019 09:23:29 #
Feb 21, 2019 09:32:20 #
Feb 21, 2019 09:37:18 #
philz
Loc: Rockaway Township NJ
Technically yes but realistically #2 is an artistic interpretation of a photograph. Which is why my camera club has established a distinct category called "Altered Reality". That is what#2 is.
Feb 21, 2019 09:38:24 #
Delderby wrote:
Well, #1 is a photograph - but what about #2?
They are both considered, technically, as photographs. But, to answer your curiosity, the first one is a realistic photograph, with minor adjustments in post processing, the second is more art, with more drastic adjustments to make it look more artistic. Very nice photos, both of them.
Feb 21, 2019 09:38:37 #
Feb 21, 2019 09:42:19 #
ricardo7 wrote:
Yes, but neither very good.
Art is in the eyes of the beholder, no need to be rude.
Feb 21, 2019 09:44:31 #
orrie smith wrote:
Art is in the eyes of the beholder, no need to be rude.
Feb 21, 2019 09:48:55 #
Maybe I’m missing the point but I’d say that anything that comes out of the camera is a photograph. If you’re looking for a term for a photograph that’s been “re-touched”, “edited”, “modified”, “enhanced”, etc., I just gave you a few.
Feb 21, 2019 09:49:19 #
Delderby wrote:
Well, #1 is a photograph - but what about #2?
Definition of photograph--an image made by a camera. Since the definition does not mention any kind of manipulation of said image, both images are therefore photographs
Feb 21, 2019 10:01:33 #
ricardo7 wrote:
Yes, but neither very good.
When I enlarged the second one, I liked it quite a bit. I think the OP was looking for "constructive" criticism.
Feb 21, 2019 10:04:00 #
Feb 21, 2019 10:10:33 #
IMHO the second one looks like a double exposure. Not my cup-of-tea.
Feb 21, 2019 10:19:48 #
Delderby wrote:
Well, #1 is a photograph - but what about #2?
Enough has been said about the two images already. But I must point out to me anyway the term Photograph is a picture or image created initially with a camera; a Picture is a general term for many sorts of graphic images, photograph, painting, air brush, photogram, etc.; a Snap Shot is usually a partly derogatory term for a poorly done or amateurish, certainly not artistic photograph. Graphic Art is an even more general term. And Photoshoped or Manipulated or Processed Image is a relative term in the eye of the beholder -- used like a descriptive term or adjective more than a verb.
Feb 21, 2019 10:59:49 #
Thanks to all who have replied. I was / am looking for a point at which PP might prevent a picture being thought of as a photograph?
Feb 21, 2019 11:28:11 #
Delderby wrote:
You could use the "realistic" benchmark, but if you've ever thought a sky pic was too blue because you have only experienced washed out color due to haze and humidity, then you'll find out how quickly that argument devolves. Just ask us folks who live in dry climates what true blue looks like Thanks to all who have replied. I was / am looking for a point at which PP might prevent a picture being thought of as a photograph?
How about if I clone out a piece of trash? What if I clone out a person so it appears a child is alone? How about if I add one more bird to two already sitting on a fence? Will you be able to tell they aren't real photos?
It's an impossible question with no answer. There are documentary photos, photos "slightly" enhanced, and "obvious" manipulations. Do what you enjoy and find others who appreciate and enjoy the same, such as in UHH's Post Processing forum: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html and For Your Consideration: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-119-1.html
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