Kmgw9v wrote:
What faith?
Whose freedom?
Faith in God our creator and the freedom that comes from a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
Kmgw9v wrote:
Like no more separation of Church and State?
I can't help it. I am not, repeat..not religious. Your desire to make this into something that it is actually not is your choice. However, whichever symbol, cross or star; our country; this means your country too; was founded and guided by their belief in God and their morals guiding the principals of our Constitution and future of our country.However, 'God' is not mentioned in the original Constitution, Imperfect, yet evolving based on, in general, the Judaeo/Christian beliefs of Americans and their representatives. Your comment, short and critical, points to the growing intolerance of those who no longer allow views of others that are antithetical to their own. All views-some extreme, since the beginning of our Republic, have been guided through our constitutional process for over 219 years. The 'State' has not and does not endorse the establishment of any religion or religious institution. This separation continues. Those who have chosen to fight this..e.g. lawsuits against 'God' in the Pledge and 'In God We Trust' on our 'Seal' and money; have lost in the Supreme Court and even the 9th District. These references are secular, patriotic, and psychological, in use and nature.
The post juxtaposes two symbols that represent what separates us from every other nation in the world. The Cross could have been a Star, Om (Hinduism), Star & Crescent (Islam), Wheel of Dharma (Buddhism). All would mean the same thing...No matter your religion or (non religious beliefs); our country, represented by our flag; embraces the diverse views of our citizens- as long as they do not infringe upon our inalienable rights...Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
To the post....nice picture.
jbk224 wrote:
I can't help it. I am not, repeat..not religious. Your desire to make this into something that it is actually not is your choice. However, whichever symbol, cross or star; our country; this means your country too; was founded and guided by their belief in God and their morals guiding the principals of our Constitution and future of our country.However, 'God' is not mentioned in the original Constitution, Imperfect, yet evolving based on, in general, the Judaeo/Christian beliefs of Americans and their representatives. Your comment, short and critical, points to the growing intolerance of those who no longer allow views of others that are antithetical to their own. All views-some extreme, since the beginning of our Republic, have been guided through our constitutional process for over 219 years. The 'State' has not and does not endorse the establishment of any religion or religious institution. This separation continues. Those who have chosen to fight this..e.g. lawsuits against 'God' in the Pledge and 'In God We Trust' on our 'Seal' and money; have lost in the Supreme Court and even the 9th District. These references are secular, patriotic, and psychological, in use and nature.
The post juxtaposes two symbols that represent what separates us from every other nation in the world. The Cross could have been a Star, Om (Hinduism), Star & Crescent (Islam), Wheel of Dharma (Buddhism). All would mean the same thing...No matter your religion or (non religious beliefs); our country, represented by our flag; embraces the diverse views of our citizens- as long as they do not infringe upon our inalienable rights...Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
To the post....nice picture.
I can't help it. I am not, repeat..not religious. ... (
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You are absolutely right—it did not have to be controversial.
The point that not all good, law-abiding, flag-loving, patriotic citizens of this country are Christian, believe in Jesus Christ, or even any religion, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, whatever; was screaming to be heard.
Perhaps that suggestion by the image was better left undisturbed.
Kmgw9v wrote:
You are absolutely right—it did not have to be controversial.
The point that not all good, law-abiding, flag-loving, patriotic citizens of this country are Christian, believe in Jesus Christ, or even any religion, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, whatever; was screaming to be heard.
Perhaps that suggestion by the image was better left undisturbed.
It wasn't controversial. You made it controversial by taking issue with what the image represents to me.
leftj wrote:
It wasn't controversial. You made it controversial by taking issue with what the image represents to me.
I said it didn’t have to be controversial. That was a concession on my part.
I have no idea what the image represents to you.
I do know that good Americans do not have to be Christians; and that good Christians do not have to be good Americans.
How is that for fueling the controversy; or should we leave it alone, as I suggested?
leftj wrote:
It wasn't controversial. You made it controversial by taking issue with what the image represents to me.
Just ignore him.
He likes to troll things that are good and put you down.
Your photo is inspirational.
Could I repost it on FB with your credit.
SueScott wrote:
Taken last summer.
Fine image and message Sue!
Kmgw9v wrote:
I said it didn’t have to be controversial. That was a concession on my part.
I have no idea what the image represents to you.
I do know that good Americans do not have to be Christians; and that good Christians do not have to be good Americans.
How is that for fueling the controversy; or should we leave it alone, as I suggested?
If you have no idea then you didn't read my post. Your second point is not even something I eluded to so yes, this would be a good place to leave it.
SueScott wrote:
I made sure the steeple was straight - couldn't do both!
In Smart Photo Editor things can be separately straightened.
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