Faith and Freedom (Page 7): Thanks. It is an appraisal that every good American should accept.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

exakta56 wrote:

Kmgw9w: thank you for your astute appraisal.

Thanks. It is an appraisal that every good American should accept.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Kmgw9v wrote:

All very good.
With the understanding that it remains crystal clear that one does not have to embrace Christianity to be a good, law-abiding, hard-working, informed, patriot of this country; respectful and grateful for the Constitution and the freedom that it provides.

No one said that you have to embrace any religion.
But the precepts are the basis of our founding and success as a nation.
Those that can't see this or refuse to do so are just kidding themselves and trying to act like they have some intellectual superiority to those of faith.

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

exakta56 wrote:

Kmgw9w: thank you for your astute appraisal.

I second that!

Stan

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Sue I am out of here.
The pompous comments are sad regarding the state of this nation.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Architect1776 wrote:

No one said that you have to embrace any religion.
But the precepts are the basis of our founding and success as a nation.
Those that can't see this or refuse to do so are just kidding themselves and trying to act like they have some intellectual superiority to those of faith.

Only you have now implied anything about intellectual superiority.
The subject is more aligned with religious tolerance and religious intolerance in this, our land, of the free.

leftj Loc: Texas

Architect1776 wrote:

No one said that you have to embrace any religion.
But the precepts are the basis of our founding and success as a nation.
Those that can't see this or refuse to do so are just kidding themselves and trying to act like they have some intellectual superiority to those of faith.

leftj Loc: Texas

Kmgw9v wrote:

Only you have now implied anything about intellectual superiority.
The subject is more aligned with religious tolerance and religious intolerance in this, our land, of the free.

You certainly have a knack for making totally dis-jointed and senseless statements. You would have failed miserably in high school debate class.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

leftj wrote:

You certainly have a knack for making totally dis-jointed and senseless statements. You would have failed miserably in high school debate class.

I did not debate in high school; and I have never been rewarded for succinct, meaningful expression—but I try.

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

leftj wrote:

You certainly have a knack for making totally dis-jointed and senseless statements. You would have failed miserably in high school debate class.

I think he would have prevailed - reason will always prevail over hysteria.

Stan

paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah

Gone from noble causes to political to God to personal attacks. But the thought the initial post was about Faith (the church) and freedom (the flag). But I do have to agree with Architect1776 But what amazes me is there are some that hate our country and still stick around trying to ruin it for everyone else. They think their ideas are so superior that everyone should yield.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

paulrph1 wrote:

Gone from noble causes to political to God to personal attacks. But the thought the initial post was about Faith (the church) and freedom (the flag). But I do have to agree with Architect1776 But what amazes me is there are some that hate our country and still stick around trying to ruin it for everyone else. They think their ideas are so superior that everyone should yield.

Has someone through this thread professed, or in some way let it slip that they "hate our country and stick around trying to ruin it for everyone else"; or is that just a general observation on your part?

paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah

Kmgw9v wrote:

Has someone through this thread professed, or in some way let it slip that they "hate our country and stick around trying to ruin it for everyone else"; or is that just a general observation on your part?

Saying it is so, doesn't make it so. Truth is, on many measures of "greatism", the U.S. falls short, far short on several. There is one criteria, though, where the U.S. holds the top spot - Military Strength. But, we may not hold that spot too much longer. Realizing that fact, and acting to move the U.S. toward exceptionalism is something that we all need to work toward.

Now, I expect that many will tell me I should leave the U.S. and go somewhere else, but I'm going nowhere. I intend to stay and, through my votes and activism, work toward making the U.S. as exceptional as many people think it is.
MAYBE you read that different from what I do but under the present political climate that is how I read it. Whether he represent the Founding Father's vision or the present day views of the liberals, (the latter of which I took it to mean) that is up to you.