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Feb 19, 2019 09:27:21   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
soba1 wrote:
Why did the group get reputations. The US had nothing to do with harming them.

http://thetempest.co/2016/08/29/social-justice/race/i-am-not-wrong-for-saying-black-people-deserve-reparations-too/


Obama did a lot of crap, do you not remember the payments to black farmers? The 12 million given to the jews was a drop in the bucket when compared to the 1.2 Billion dollar Pigford settlement.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-farmers-to-receive-payouts-in-1-2-billion-from-federal-lawsuit-settlement/

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Feb 19, 2019 09:34:47   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Obama did a lot of crap, do you not remember the payments to black farmers? The 12 million given to the jews was a drop in the bucket when compared to the 1.2 Billion dollar Pigford settlement.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-farmers-to-receive-payouts-in-1-2-billion-from-federal-lawsuit-settlement/


Honestly wasn't aware of that. Let me do some reading.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:48:18   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
soba1 wrote:
Research the Boul'e


I sure will. Thank you.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:57:39   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I was watching a woman on TV the other day and I would have never thought it could happen but she made a reasoned case for reparations that actually made me sit back and think. I don't see how reparations could work, nor can I figure a way for the government to do such a thing without facing civil insurrection because there would be so much misunderstanding by those that simply deny the institutional racism that blacks faced as recent as within our lifetimes.

At any rate, I am supportive and hopeful for opportunity zones and other private/public partnerships designed to bring opportunity where currently there is none.
I was watching a woman on TV the other day and I w... (show quote)


Well, if we are to ever seriously discuss reparations we must include on the recipient list relatives of the white lóele who died fighting to stop the practice of slavery.....those deaths decreased family footprints, split families (especially near the MD line), blah, blah, blah.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:58:49   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Over 40 million people, it would have to come in the form of community development and infrastructure. Proper dedication to community resources, schools and such, as far as identifying specific corps... I am unclear as to how that could be done.


You price it all out and than you back out the actual cost of all the social programs from 1865 until the date of the cost out.

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Feb 19, 2019 10:12:44   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Obama did a lot of crap, do you not remember the payments to black farmers? The 12 million given to the jews was a drop in the bucket when compared to the 1.2 Billion dollar Pigford settlement.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-farmers-to-receive-payouts-in-1-2-billion-from-federal-lawsuit-settlement/


Here is another side.
http://lasentinel.net/black-farmers-finally-collect-in-1-2-billion-in-discrimination-case.html
My point is why did we need to pay reparations to the Holocaust survivors when they were
not wronged by the US government.

How about the 5 dollar Indians
http://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/archive/paying-to-play-indian-the-dawes-rolls-and-the-legacy-of-5-indians-3yha0LldYUaH7smRsrks8A/

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Feb 19, 2019 10:23:59   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
http://grist.org/food/what-happened-to-americas-black-farmers/

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Feb 19, 2019 10:27:37   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Here this as well which I have brought up before, well after slavery

http://www.theringer.com/2018/6/28/17511818/black-wall-street-oklahoma-greenwood-destruction-tulsa

http://www.history.com/topics/early-20th-century-us/rosewood-massacre

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Feb 19, 2019 10:34:59   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
This was well after slavery ended................................







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Feb 19, 2019 10:40:48   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
soba1 wrote:
This was well after slavery ended................................


Hey, one of the most horrific stories I have ever heard was that of Shirley Sherrod and the lynching of her father in their yard when she was a child, I still do not believe that it excused the attitude that she initially brought to her job but it does make the story of lynching very real, it was happening in my lifetime. It is as dark a part of our history as was slavery, but those days are over. I am a big proponent of improving life in the inner cities and those left behind in our society in general, the question is how can we effectuate that goal in a responsible manner.

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Feb 19, 2019 10:43:51   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Black Veterans mistreated after returning home from WWII

http://rhapsodyinbooks.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/memorial-day-remembrance-lynching-of-black-veterans-after-world-war-ii/

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Feb 19, 2019 10:47:51   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Hey, one of the most horrific stories I have ever heard was that of Shirley Sherrod and the lynching of her father in their yard when she was a child, I still do not believe that it excused the attitude that she initially brought to her job but it does make the story of lynching very real, it was happening in my lifetime. It is as dark a part of our history as was slavery, but those days are over. I am a big proponent of improving life in the inner cities and those left behind in our society in general, the question is how can we effectuate that goal in a responsible manner.
Hey, one of the most horrific stories I have ever ... (show quote)


This subject about reparations affirmative action I really don't waste much time on it.
Yes there is still things that go on today, but I don't really like to focus on it. Yes I do keep
abreast of things; but in all honesty.
The most important thing in life for me isn't this life but the life after.
Yes I fight the good fight, but at the end of the day I know whats really important to me.

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Feb 19, 2019 11:18:10   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Does anyone think the blacks who want reparations would also agree to give that to white folks who's relatives died in the Civil War trying to free the blacks? I think probably not.

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Feb 19, 2019 11:21:38   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Does anyone think the blacks who want reparations would also agree to give that to white folks who's relatives died in the Civil War trying to free the blacks? I think probably not.


The civil war was not about freeing the slaves....................
From what I have posted throughout this thread whites have been benefitting all along.
Also if you have followed I mentioned the atrocities well after slavery.
Please read.

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Feb 19, 2019 11:31:33   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
http://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/civil-war-facts

Q. What caused the Civil War?

While many still debate the ultimate causes of the Civil War, Pulitzer Prize-winning author James McPherson writes that, "The Civil War started because of uncompromising differences between the free and slave states over the power of the national government to prohibit slavery in the territories that had not yet become states. When Abraham Lincoln won election in 1860 as the first Republican president on a platform pledging to keep slavery out of the territories, seven slave states in the deep South seceded and formed a new nation, the Confederate States of America. The incoming Lincoln administration and most of the Northern people refused to recognize the legitimacy of secession. They feared that it would discredit democracy and create a fatal precedent that would eventually fragment the no-longer United States into several small, squabbling countries."

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