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Feb 19, 2019 09:47:36   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
If it didn't cost so much per image I would take out my Hasselblads and begin using them again.


Well if you do could you please tell me where I could find a 600mm f/4.0 with a 1.4 extender to fit that 2 1/4 X 2 1/4 format and with an A 24 back that will do 12 FPS, Oh heck, I sold all my Hassey gear. Yes I did wildlife with that camera and loved the focusing system.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:48:46   #
BebuLamar
 
selmslie wrote:
Ignorance is bliss.

Highlight warnings are the easiest way to avoid blowing highlights. That also makes them the easiest and safest way to accomplish ETTR.

Since you never post any images we have no idea if you really understand exposure or overexposure at all.


I did post some images but I don't want to prove anything. I am dumb and I like it that way.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:50:14   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
rpavich wrote:
It depends on a lot of things. Film isn't that bad cost wise, and medium format is even cheaper than 35mm per roll.

Add to that that you don't shot-gun 500 images to get one and it's even better.

Where I have my color developing done it starts at $3.49 per roll for MF.

with scans it's $6.99 per roll but it's more fun to shoot B&W and develop and print myself.

With Digi....half the fun and creativity is missing...the Darkroom.


Learn Photoshop and you almost have a darkroom that does not smell and it is a lot of fun.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:55:35   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
While I appreciate the blinkies, sometimes, they can become very annoying and I sometimes shut them off. A good example would be when a lighted sign is sometimes in the shot of a basketball game. I enjoy the ability to be able to change some camera controls and I don't mind the five minutes that takes me when I get a new camera. These settings are personal and there is no RIGHT way. As a teacher, I'd expect you to realize that. I set my cameras up in the way that works best for ME! Best of luck.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:56:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cjc2 wrote:
While I appreciate the blinkies, sometimes, they can become very annoying and I sometimes shut them off. A good example would be when a lighted sign is sometimes in the shot of a basketball game. I enjoy the ability to be able to change some camera controls and I don't mind the five minutes that takes me when I get a new camera. These settings are personal and there is no RIGHT way. As a teacher, I'd expect you to realize that. I set my cameras up in the way that works best for ME! Best of luck.
While I appreciate the blinkies, sometimes, they c... (show quote)


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Feb 19, 2019 10:10:00   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
rpavich wrote:
I don't have blinkies and I only have these controls; a shutter button, a film winder, a film advance lever, an f/top ring, and a shutter speed dial.


šŸ˜‚ Yup, back in the day when everything was so much simpler. Too funny

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Feb 19, 2019 10:36:04   #
olddutch Loc: Beloit, Wisconsin
 
When you refer to Blinkies , is that the Sparkle in the Snow??

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Feb 19, 2019 10:36:57   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
olddutch wrote:
When you refer to Blinkies , is that the Sparkle in the Snow??

No.

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Feb 19, 2019 10:39:47   #
Npt Bob Loc: Newport, RI
 
OP You mention things being set up to turn the ā€œwrongā€ way. The one that I still have to think about each time is attaching or removing a lens on my Nikon. I have the camera pointing toward me - have to turn lens clockwise to remove, counterclockwise to install.

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Feb 19, 2019 10:40:41   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
John Gerlach wrote:
Two things that continually amaze me when teaching photography is how badly clients have their cameras set up. So I am wondering how many here are taking advantage of some simple camera settings to help them shoot photos. First, I have no idea why this is so, but it seems all the cameras I look at require the user to active the cameras highlight alert to show blinkies in an image that is shot during playback. Why would you not want to have the highlight alert active? It seems to me the factory default should have the highlight alert on, and not have to be turned on by the user. I have been using the highlight alert exclusively for about four years now - more than a million shots - and I don't have any exposure problems. It is quick and easy and I can actually see the "blinkies" a lot easier than a little bit of rightmost data on the histogram. Second, for some reason cameras are set up to require the user to turn the shutter or aperture dial to the left (if using the top of the dial) to add light and move the histogram data to the right. It doesn't seem logical to have to turn dials left to move histogram data right. A client physicist pointed out this to me about 15 years ago and then I knew why I would use one of the custom settings on my cameras called "Reverse dial direction TV/AV." But it also works on manual. On all of my cameras, turning the exposure dials to the right adds light and moves the histogram data more right too. It is so logical to do it that way. I do have clients who insist they have learned to turn their dials left, to add light and move the histogram data right. But, when I observe them, I notice they are just as likely to turn the dial the wrong way as the right way, so I would point out that perhaps they should switch because it is not as intuitive as they assume it is for them.
Two things that continually amaze me when teaching... (show quote)


Beautiful picture! I donā€™t consider myself a beginner, but I am always turning the dials the wrong way. I shoot in Manual most of the time. I recently got a Sony a7iii and I am reading a book by David Busch on how to really learn the camera. I donā€™t agree with all of his suggestions and Iā€™ve found quite a few mistakes in the book; but, all in all, I am learning a lot and I am only in chapter three!

I tried your suggestion of reversing the dials and I think I like it. If I want more light, turn right! Easy to remember. I canā€™t watch the histogram while turning the dials, though, because it disappears when either dial is rotated.

My blinkies only appear when reviewing the picture and changing the display. However, I can turn zebra stripes on that are visible before pushing the shutter button. I do find them distracting, though, as others have said. Great learning tool.

I never learned real photography in the film days, although I have had cameras since I got my first Kodak box camera for $1 and lots of cereal box tops. I used my first DSLR on auto for two years before I found this site. Itā€™s people like you who have pushed my photography to the next level. Thank you!

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Feb 19, 2019 10:46:12   #
wbchinook Loc: Everson WA
 
Thank you for posting this John. An old dog like me can still learn a thing or two. I am going to see if I can change these setting on my Panasonic G9.

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Feb 19, 2019 10:50:53   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
Npt Bob wrote:
OP You mention things being set up to turn the ā€œwrongā€ way. The one that I still have to think about each time is attaching or removing a lens on my Nikon. I have the camera pointing toward me - have to turn lens clockwise to remove, counterclockwise to install.


This is only a problem for me after Iā€™ve used my Sony exclusively (i.e.: on a month long vacation) because they are completely opposite of each other!!!!!

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Feb 19, 2019 11:01:08   #
User ID
 
BebuLamar wrote:

Why pity? He could afford the camera that don't
have all those things.
http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/
Leica-M10-D


That is NOT his camera. His camera has a film
winder and film advance lever. That camera is
digital.

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Feb 19, 2019 11:16:38   #
User ID
 
wbchinook wrote:

Thank you for posting this John.
An old dog like me can still learn a thing or two.
I am going to see if I can change these setting
on my Panasonic G9.


I use a G9 and IIRC all that stuff is available
for user preference customization. I set up a
camera and then never change it, so I really
don't recall the procedures but mine is set up
for no blinkies or zebras and I can switch the
histogram off and on with a Fn button, altho
I think I'll ditch that cuz I don't use it. As to
which way the dials turn, I have never cared,
on ANY camera ... prolly cuz I'm a lefty and
I'm always adapting and accommodating to
a world designed for someone else. I never
hafta think about it. It's second nature. So,
to me, John's concerns seem far fetched. To
the right handed, maybe that stuff matters,
given that the menus do allow you to mess
with it !

Whatever rocks your boat, a G9 is second to
none for customizing controls and interface.
I use the PDF manual cuz PDF is searchable.

.

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Feb 19, 2019 13:30:24   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Blinkies can be very distracting when I am trying to analyze composition or study detail within the image. I keep the highlight alert feature turned off until I actually need it.
I suppose it makes sense for new photographers to keep it on in order to remind them about checking on the highlights. But there comes a point when one no longer needs a constant reminder.


Blinkies Histogram

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