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Feb 18, 2019 11:38:33   #
sbohne
 
Problem is, most Conservatives are idiots. Here's how bad Amazon needed those concessions:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-taxes-zero-180337770.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_02

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Feb 18, 2019 12:02:06   #
elad Loc: Arizona
 
sbohne wrote:
Problem is, most Conservatives are idiots. Here's how bad Amazon needed those concessions:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-taxes-zero-180337770.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_02


Ah, I was waiting for the real rabid liberals to come out, with delusional name calling because they don't have an argument that can make an iota of sense! The real issue is how bad did New York need the Amazon proposal...it was liberal Democrats that in doing something correct in needing to approve the Amazon deal because the high taxes they imposed on industry was losing companies and hence thousands of jobs to a more conservative business climates. Now your liberal (socialist) idiots have proven that New York City is not a place to set-up shop.

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Feb 18, 2019 12:04:46   #
RichJ207 Loc: Sammamish, WA
 
mas24 wrote:
I just saw today on the News today, that Amazon has decided not to have a Headquarters in NYC. Because local politicians and businesses didn't like the Tax Breaks Amazon were going to get. 25,000 good paying jobs were promised in NYC. The debate was that New York City does not give Tax Breaks to the average business man or woman, as they do the rich. The mayor and governor arranged these tax breaks for Amazon, and are upset that Amazon is now leaving NYC. To go elsewhere.


As an Amazon shareholder, with the restrictions that NYC put on the deal, I am happy that Amazon walked away. It was a good business decision for a number of reasons.

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Feb 18, 2019 12:08:57   #
elad Loc: Arizona
 
RichJ207 wrote:
As an Amazon shareholder, with the restrictions that NYC put on the deal, I am happy that Amazon walked away. It was a good business decision for a number of reasons.



Rich, I agree. Amazon was the big winner by coming to their senses by pulling out of New York. I could never understand why they chose to go to New York over the many other options they had. They dodged the big liberal bullet.

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Feb 18, 2019 13:00:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
elad wrote:
Ah, I was waiting for the real rabid liberals to come out, with delusional name calling because they don't have an argument that can make an iota of sense! The real issue is how bad did New York need the Amazon proposal...it was liberal Democrats that in doing something correct in needing to approve the Amazon deal because the high taxes they imposed on industry was losing companies and hence thousands of jobs to a more conservative business climates. Now your liberal (socialist) idiots have proven that New York City is not a place to set-up shop.
Ah, I was waiting for the real rabid liberals to c... (show quote)



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Feb 18, 2019 13:01:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
elad wrote:
Rich, I agree. Amazon was the big winner by coming to their senses by pulling out of New York. I could never understand why they chose to go to New York over the many other options they had. They dodged the big liberal bullet.



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Feb 18, 2019 16:48:42   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
FrankR wrote:
No, the largest uneducated group on the planet are the anal orifices such as you who think they know everything about everybody. Who blindly, unfailingly and without question follow and support an unqualified, incapable, unconcerned liar, who is probably a treasounous one as well. And no matter what he does, no matter how many times he lies to you, all you do is close your eyes and yell about Hillary’s emails. That is the largest uneducated group on the planet and you’re in it.


Dear Mr. R,
I am a Trump supporter. In as much as my political status (at least in your opinion) has rendered me an uneducated "a" hole incapable of a rational thought or critical analysis perhaps in your great wisdom and abundant kindness you will be able to answer a few questions for me.
1. Have you always had a propensity to label complete strangers in denigratory terms (anal orifices, uneducated, unqualified, unconcerned liar, i.e.) or do you sometimes wait until you have first shaken their hand before you stand in judgment of their character?
2. Can you be specific in your accusations of Presidential treason? Untold lawyers, FBI agents and congress persons have been in search of that answer for more than 36 months and come away empty handed. Perhaps you know something they don't. If so, you have a patriotic duty to bring that evidence before the courts.
3. Is this still America? When last I looked I had the same rights and freedoms as you. There was a time when, without fear of intimidation or humiliation or hate filled condemnations, I had freedom of speech, religion and political beliefs. If your diatribe against President Trump's supporters is an indication of the leadership qualities of your chosen political party I stand in trepidation for all coming generations.

Thank you for your patience. I anxiously await your reply.

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Feb 18, 2019 17:51:51   #
Mr Quark
 
WELL SAID WULIGAL

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Feb 18, 2019 18:31:09   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
Thank you Mr. Quark,
Politeness and consideration comes easily when two people agree on an issue. The real test of character is when you are poles apart.
PS: Is that Quark as in TOP?

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Feb 18, 2019 19:43:26   #
RichJ207 Loc: Sammamish, WA
 
Just as an aside:

Imagine how much it would cost us if the U.S. Government came up with a plan that would build a facility and employ 25,000 people who were making whatever Amazon was going to pay (and who would be paying local, state and federal taxes).

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Feb 18, 2019 20:58:43   #
Mr Quark
 
Well Well Wuligal Thats a tough question. I'm one of six but not quite sure which. I'll have to pass but then does it really matter. I'm lost in space and lucky to involve my self in these discussions. I might be strange??????

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Feb 18, 2019 22:22:53   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
“No nation on earth has reduced carbon dioxide emissions as much as the U.S. since 2005. Our CO2 emissions have fallen to their lowest level in 25 years – largely because of increased use of clean natural gas – while the rest of the world’s CO2 emissions have risen 50 percent since 1990.”

Not quite. Natural gas, when burned, produces CO2 and water. The more BTU's, the more CO2, whatever fossil fuel is used. What the dirty fuels add is pollution particles like sulfur, soot, etc. But if you burn carbon (in the presence of oxygen of course), you get carbon dioxide, and you also get hydrogen dioxide--water--because fossil fuels all contain carbon in the complex form of hydrocarbons (hydrogen atoms).

The smoggy parts choke us, while the carbon dioxide part cooks us by the greenhouse effect--a simple fact demonstrated by looking at a greenhouse (or our next door planet Venus, which is so much hotter than we are for this very reason). Long ago in grade school I was taught that carbon dioxide is a harmless gas produced by natural gas, abundant in our air, but it was not yet clear that world industrialization would produce more than the planet could assimilate. For a time, perhaps the added CO2 generated more plant life, and the plants released more oxygen accordingly, but the added heat began (first in the seas) to reduce the supply of plant life. The earth can cool itself by melting down some ice, but as winters get shorter, the supply of ice decreases (clearly visible in satellite photos). Thus the global warming actually gives us polar vortexes in winter as Earth tries to cool things down.

I use clean coal (anthracite) to heat my house because it is cheaper than gas (per BTU), and it does not smoke and choke like the cheaper dirty coal used in power plants. The radiant cast iron stove keeps the house cozy and is especially nice in the living areas around the stove. But it produces CO2 just like gas does. I could use dirty coal if I could find it around here, but the fumes, soot and smoke remind me too much of the after life.

The reason EPA is happy for us to burn hard coal at home (no regulatory restraints) is that it is far cleaner than using electric heat at home, because of the dirty power plants and the lost energy over the power lines, and it is also cleaner than fuel oil (which is kerosene). Hard coal is almost all carbon compared to other fuels (over 90%). EPA regulations discourage burning wood, even though it is replenishible and uses trees already cut, unless the stoves are designed to burn all the particles as well as the logs. Logs rotting in the woods produce as much CO2 as burning them does, but this has been healthy for the forest, as plants want CO2 (and give off oxygen, keeping the carbon).
“No nation on earth has reduced carbon dioxide emi... (show quote)



Uh...quite!

“No nation on earth has reduced carbon dioxide emissions as much as the U.S. since 2005. Our CO2 emissions have fallen to their lowest level in 25 years – largely because of increased use of clean natural gas – while the rest of the world’s CO2 emissions have risen 50 percent since 1990.”

As for theory on foliage, the CO2 back in Dino days was what, 10 times higher?

Try living with no CO2.

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Feb 18, 2019 22:23:59   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
sbohne wrote:
Problem is, most Conservatives are idiots. Here's how bad Amazon needed those concessions:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-taxes-zero-180337770.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_02



Problem is all fascist progressives are mushroom plant stupid and thrive on platitudes with no facts or subject matter knowledge!

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Feb 19, 2019 08:31:13   #
Curtis_Lowe Loc: Georgia
 
sbohne wrote:
Problem is, most Conservatives are idiots. Here's how bad Amazon needed those concessions:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-taxes-zero-180337770.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_02


I am going to restrict my comment to yours as I did not take the time to read the reference you posted.

If you think the issue is related to how bad Amazon needed the concessions then you have missed the whole idea here. How bad they needed them is irrelevant and your attention to that issue is an indication that you are not prepared to discuss the balance of the conversation.

Idiots indeed, respond if you wish but please use your words to further the conversation or do not respond.

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Feb 19, 2019 08:34:28   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
RichJ207 wrote:
As an Amazon shareholder, with the restrictions that NYC put on the deal, I am happy that Amazon walked away. It was a good business decision for a number of reasons.


As a fellow Amazon shareholder, and New Yorker, I fully agree!!!

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