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Was It Bad For New York City To Have An Amazon Headquarters There?
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Feb 17, 2019 07:20:35   #
Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana
 
SteveR wrote:
Somebody on UHH was looking for placed to visit in NYC. I suggested that he go to the proposed site of the Amazon headquarters and take a picture of the place where 25,000 people would have worked and made good money. Call it the Ocasio-Cortez field of weeds. Your government representatives working for you!!!


what a dumb a$$!!

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Feb 17, 2019 07:25:05   #
elad Loc: Arizona
 
Fotoserj wrote:
Amazone is in for the money and absolutely nothing else, when the free money run out so will they


Profit is the first goal of all businesses that wish to prosper. There is the chance that if Amazon did locate their headquarters in New York that they eventually would "run out" because of the New York insane tax situation which must, and therefore will only continue to get worse, so businesses and residents will continue to leave for greener pastures, where they can survive.

Without having a clue, it would seem that AOC had done Amazon a great long term favor, but not so the people she is supposedly representing.

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Feb 17, 2019 07:26:22   #
DAN Phillips Loc: Graysville, GA
 
I think personally that a loud mouthed ex-bartender had a lot to do with!

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Feb 17, 2019 07:35:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Like every other "great project that will bring thousands of jobs," it's the tax payers of NYC who would pay Amazon millions to move there. If Amazon had moved in like any other business and paid it's fair share, that would have been fine. Giving handouts to billionaires seems to be the American way, but it's not good for the people who actually pay taxes.

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Feb 17, 2019 07:51:41   #
elad Loc: Arizona
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Like every other "great project that will bring thousands of jobs," it's the tax payers of NYC who would pay Amazon millions to move there. If Amazon had moved in like any other business and paid it's fair share, that would have been fine. Giving handouts to billionaires seems to be the American way, but it's not good for the people who actually pay taxes.


From what I have read, not a penny would be paid to Amazon by "the tax payers," instead, Amazon would benefit from $2.9 billion in tax breaks. In return Amazon would create much needed high paying jobs in New York for 25,000 additional taxpayers.

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Feb 17, 2019 08:01:03   #
Largobob
 
MSW wrote:
ok- -here's the real deal
!. we are idiots, politically. most americans cannot name their congressman and their senators.
2. we are idiots. most of my daughters' contemporaries cannot explain how a bill becomes law.
3. we are idiots. the few of us who bother to get off our collective dead duff and vote go into the booth, hold the nose, and pull the lever.
4. we are idiots. we allow the power elite to promise us the sun and moon, and then make a bunch of lame-o excuses when they just use their power to fill their own coffers and trample what few right we have remaining.
we are idiots. if you have a degree from Harvard (or, for that matter, any Ivy League or other elite university), it appears that you're smart enough to run things, even though you have no experience in running anything... other than your mouth.
5. we are idiots. If I don't vote for the black or the woman, i'm a misogynist bigot racist from hell exploited of the masses... if I don't vote from some 'protestant fundamentalist,' then i'm a bomb throwing pinko anarchist.
6. we are idiots. and we elect idiots, and we deserve what we get.




ok - the rant is over … it's safe to come out now, but next time you see a car with state senate plates on it, go ahead and wave - using all of your fingers is optional.
ok- -here's the real deal br !. we are idiots, po... (show quote)



yes, we are idiots!

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Feb 17, 2019 08:28:34   #
jerold222 Loc: Southern Minnesota
 
And Amazon pays zero in Taxes on over 11 billion profit last year.
http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/

Think about that for a while.

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Feb 17, 2019 08:30:22   #
Curtis_Lowe Loc: Georgia
 
Ok folks here how it works, a local tax break or credit just means you do not pay the tax, No money that would have been there had you not come to town leaves the local treasury. If the company makes good on it's promises of good paying jobs you make the argument that those jobs would not have been there, those people spend the pay they get buying houses, cars, dinner out utilities ect. The economy benefits tremendously. It MAY not be fair to the business that do not get the credit they pay full fare but the local economy and tax base benefit for sure, but not as much as if there was no tax credit given.

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Feb 17, 2019 08:30:40   #
al13
 
Nashville, TN bid high enough to purchase Amazon’s right to move here. Another sweetheart deal for Amazon.

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Feb 17, 2019 08:48:29   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
mas24 wrote:
I just saw today on the News today, that Amazon has decided not to have a Headquarters in NYC. Because local politicians and businesses didn't like the Tax Breaks Amazon were going to get. 25,000 good paying jobs were promised in NYC. The debate was that New York City does not give Tax Breaks to the average business man or woman, as they do the rich. The mayor and governor arranged these tax breaks for Amazon, and are upset that Amazon is now leaving NYC. To go elsewhere.


I think this was such a stupid move on the part of the politicians and unions that I cannot talk about it, I will offend someone and start a war, 25,000 jobs, people off welfare and unemployment and the city gavetax breaks, money that they were not getting anyway.

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Feb 17, 2019 08:50:59   #
star2344 Loc: Lakewood Ranch, FLorida
 
Sentences begin with capital letters.

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Feb 17, 2019 09:19:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
mas24 wrote:
I just saw today on the News today, that Amazon has decided not to have a Headquarters in NYC. Because local politicians and businesses didn't like the Tax Breaks Amazon were going to get. 25,000 good paying jobs were promised in NYC. The debate was that New York City does not give Tax Breaks to the average business man or woman, as they do the rich. The mayor and governor arranged these tax breaks for Amazon, and are upset that Amazon is now leaving NYC. To go elsewhere.


Also stupid snowflakes have no clue what tax breaks are. Amazon would still pay taxes. but instead of 31B in taxes it would be 28B in taxes including all the taxes ripped off from the employees will make up for the break it just goes through the employees paycheck instead of directly from Amazon.
So now they have lost 28B in direct revenue, billions in income taxes, billions in support business taxes, lost 25K jobs for people who would spend money. This is a real win for the communists/democrats. They are so proud they showed Amazon who is boss.

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Feb 17, 2019 09:44:52   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
BlueMorel wrote:
My daughter lives near Racine, Wisconsin, where FoxConn, amid much fanfare and taxbreaks, promised 13, 000 jobs, many of them factory jobs. Now theyve pulled out of that plan and decided they can't make money doing that and instead will hire R&D people. Meanwhile, real estate prices and rent rose, people and businesses had to move, and the community is left high and dry.

There are so many instances of businesses getting large tax breaks and then leaving within a few years. When will governments wise up and stop making these deals?
My daughter lives near Racine, Wisconsin, where Fo... (show quote)


Only cheddar logic will see as a negative that 13000 jobs laying, say, $45k are being replaced with 13000 jobs paying, say, $100k.

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Feb 17, 2019 09:59:44   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
mas24 wrote:
I just saw today on the News today, that Amazon has decided not to have a Headquarters in NYC. Because local politicians and businesses didn't like the Tax Breaks Amazon were going to get. 25,000 good paying jobs were promised in NYC. The debate was that New York City does not give Tax Breaks to the average business man or woman, as they do the rich. The mayor and governor arranged these tax breaks for Amazon, and are upset that Amazon is now leaving NYC. To go elsewhere.



It’s an interesting model IF one does the math and the company follows through.

Not so oddly, AOC appears to be so ignorant in both taxation and the laws she is on record as saying that NY can now use that money to give things to current New Yorkers (let me amend that.....it’s actual stupidity).

NY was giving tax BREAKS to Amazon, meaning Amazon would be paying less out over the years. If I recall the company was promising 25000 jobs paying an average of $150,000 per year, a total of $3.8 billion I. Gross salaries and est. $260-$340 million in local income taxes per year. But wait....there’s more! They will spend money in NY, which will create sales tax receipts, yes? It’s easy to model $88-120 million per year for sales tax collections.

Where are we? Oh.....as high as $460 million a year in collected taxes, which would be about a six year payback on the THEORETICAL gift to Amazon (which was really putting off the collection of direct taxes from the company, not actual cash paid out, on a project that has no other takers!!!)

What else? Oh....all the jobs to build the campus, the upgraded services and facilities that accompany such projects including better streets, traffic signals, and mass trans.

Finally, the company would EVENTUALLY be paying direct taxes to NY on their business activity.

Yes, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is seriously flawed in brainpower, was one of the primary movers behind this loss, appears to have zero grasp on true economics and math, and should pay dearly for her devastating homage to socialism at the cost of the people of NY.

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Feb 17, 2019 10:01:58   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Sirsnapalot wrote:
what a dumb a$$!!




....or perhaps AOC is just a useful idiot, a tool, for those trying to destroy America.

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