GOP Platform Plans Constitutional amendment prohibiting Abortions, No exception for incest or Rape (Page 13): This should be disturbing to anyone who is truly pro-choice as well as...

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

handgunner wrote:

Maybe we should adopt China's "One Child Policy"?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/analects/2012/06/consequences-one-child-policy

This should be disturbing to anyone who is truly pro-choice as well as those who are pro-life. If someone doesn't see anything wrong with it and call themselves pro-choice, they are really pro-abortion and using "pro-choice" as a misleading euphemism.

wbym300 Loc: Wisconsin

I do not believe I could stand before God on judgement day and argue the benefits of a pro choice agenda. Not because of my own worthless hide but life is his realm and who am I to second guess his providence.

handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut

The conundrum is: where does life start? The division of the first cells? Do cancer cells also have the same right? Of course not.
Seeing some of these kids these days I think abortion should be retroactive until they are 21 years old.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

and I think you could also say that the babie's chance of burning in eternal Hell has also been mitigated........

sort of a 2 fer 1 you might say.

As for compassion - your right I have none for photosexton but then I did not hear or read that photosexton was asking for compassion - for her/himself. And in any case, my compassion would be for photosexton's mother - who was 15 - gang raped then lived with that her entire life.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

That was a heartless, compassionless statement toward A LIVING BEING! I agree that compassion is not just for any one religious sect or belief. All people should have compassion for their fellow humans, including the unborn children who were murdered before having a chance to be functioning members of society. And I agree, I do not have compassion for the dead, because if they have lived their lives by Gods way, then they are in a better place. If they have chosen to live their lives with their backs turned on God, believing that anything is acceptable, then God will turn His back on them, and let their souls burn in the eternal pit of Hell. The only comfort that comes from a childs life being cut short before birth is that the child has not had the opportunity to be corrupted by the world.[/quote]

Hmmmm.....and I think you could also say based on your beliefs that the babie's chance of burning in eternal Hell has also been mitigated........sort of a 2 fer 1 you might say.

As for compassion - your right I have none for photosexton but then I did not hear or read that photosexton was asking for compassion - for her/himself. And in any case, my compassion would be for photosexton's mother - who was 15 - gang raped then lived with that and with knowing that the men who raped her were still around. Can you imagine her fears? Her horror? And how that experience tore her up in all ways - her entire life?

Oddly enough photosexton didn't really say anything about mom - about her life - about what it was like for her.

dtcracer

photosbysexton wrote:

dtcracer wrote:

docrob wrote:

dtcracer wrote:

photosbysexton wrote:

docrob wrote:

photosbysexton wrote:

So let's punish the unborn child for that teenagers CHOICE? Yeah. Good call.

I remember when I was young, my grandfather once told me that "you choose your parents". I imagined then a young baby sorting through photo after photo carefully deciding, "those will be my parents". Imagine the horror when that vacuum and scraper came into this temporary 9 month home 7 months early. Imagine what that baby is thinking now.

FYI, I am the product of a 15 year old girl being raped by 5 monsters just one block from home. I may not be on the same intillectual level of your precious Barry Soteros or any of your other gods, but at least I had the chance and most that know me, adore me and respect my successes.

That teenage girl isn't being punished for her choices, she is being held responsible and accountable for her actions as we all should be. You call it punishment all you want.. I will continue to believe that when you are held responsible, you are not enslaved, you are empowered.

docrob wrote:

quote=Zenith701 You are right about one thing. I... (show quote)

So let's punish the unborn child for that teenager... (show quote)

so your saying that you chose to be created via an act of violent gang rape?

Man, you got some heavy karma!

I don't know where or how Barry Soteros or any other gods entered this discussion....maybe that came through the ether?

Curious to whom those five monsters were held accountable too and for what consequences and responsibilities they were made to accept?

quote=photosbysexton So let's punish the unborn c... (show quote)

The Obama reference was meant as an example, the way some of you hold him in such high regards. "I may not be . . ."

How you became so cruel in your responses is a question for another time.

We won't get into the details, but my family is from "old" Detroit. The law never got them, but I'm positive that they are being punished through eternity.

My point on choosing my parents would have been long before the rape. Again my imagination would have seen these people as upstanding and someone worth my love and devotion. This, in spite of their behavior after I had chosen.

quote=docrob quote=photosbysexton So let's punis... (show quote)

Please overlook docrob. He preaches compassion for people who do wrong, yet he cannot practice compassion himself. This is his normal attitude toward people who do not agree with is immoral view on life. He is typical of people who believe there are no consequences for their actions in the afterlife, because he does not believe in an afterlife, therefore people should be allowed to go wild while they are alive.

quote=photosbysexton quote=docrob quote=photosb... (show quote)

actually compassion starts with one self - then spreads to others. It's a universal energy - its not localized to any one religious sect or belief such as believe in heaven or hell. Which, reminds me, why should I or anyone have compassion for the dead if in fact they are in heaven then they are with their Lord who will take care of them as He tends his sheep. No, sorry dude, compassion is for the living.

quote=dtcracer quote=photosbysexton quote=docro... (show quote)

I was talking about the lack of compassion that you displayed for photosbysexton when she stated she was the product of a rape. You then stated she has heavy karma and that her opinion must be from the ether, that was a heartless, compassionless statement toward A LIVING BEING! I agree that compassion is not just for any one religious sect or belief. All people should have compassion for their fellow humans, including the unborn children who were murdered before having a chance to be functioning members of society. And I agree, I do not have compassion for the dead, because if they have lived their lives by Gods way, then they are in a better place. If they have chosen to live their lives with their backs turned on God, believing that anything is acceptable, then God will turn His back on them, and let their souls burn in the eternal pit of Hell. The only comfort that comes from a childs life being cut short before birth is that the child has not had the opportunity to be corrupted by the world.

quote=docrob quote=dtcracer quote=photosbysexto... (show quote)

dtcracer, I appreciate your explaining docrob's lack of compassion in a manner that he may be able to understand. It is unfortunate that he normally comes across in his writings as a man in the know. But just like a cat, if you shave his ass, he's still a cat, a moron who has learned the art of stringing words together albeit in some prestigiuos university or in the school of hard knocks, is still a moron.

By the way, I hate to alert you to an error but photosbysexton is a he, not a she. That is actually me posed as sleeping on my bike in my avatar photo/business card. Self portrait using tripod and wireless remote trigger. Sorry.

quote=dtcracer quote=docrob quote=dtcracer quo... (show quote)

No problem. Ignorance under the guise of education irritates me. Some people believe themselves to be more intelligent than the majority of the populace due to believing they are more educated. It has been my experience after years of dealing with the problems of society that being educated does not necessarily mean intelligent.

I apologize for calling you a she. I was under a false assumption, I guess influenced by the nature of the conversation. I did not look at your avatar, either, or I would have figured that out! It would not have changed my stance, or my comments knowing otherwise, though.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

wbym300 wrote:

I do not believe I could stand before God on judgement day and argue the benefits of a pro choice agenda. Not because of my own worthless hide but life is his realm and who am I to second guess his providence.

That's fine, but you only have to make that argument for yourself, not for anyone else. Each individual will have to justify their own actions. You can't say that because you believe something is wrong nobody can do it. They have to make their own decisions and then deal with the consequences. No one on earth can speak for God.

photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN

docrob wrote:

That was a heartless, compassionless statement tow... (show quote)

Hmmmm.....and I think you could also say based on your beliefs that the babie's chance of burning in eternal Hell has also been mitigated........sort of a 2 fer 1 you might say.

As for compassion - your right I have none for photosexton but then I did not hear or read that photosexton was asking for compassion - for her/himself. And in any case, my compassion would be for photosexton's mother - who was 15 - gang raped then lived with that and with knowing that the men who raped her were still around. Can you imagine her fears? Her horror? And how that experience tore her up in all ways - her entire life?

Oddly enough photosexton didn't really say anything about mom - about her life - about what it was like for her.[/quote]

You are correct, I did not ask for compassion from you, nor did I come back to my question as to how one could be so cruel in their replies. However, as racer pointed out, education has a tendecy to convince some that they are superior to those who are assumed to not have it.

And, my mother happily raised 8 of us. Me, and 7 younger sisters. She lived a happy but short life, passing at the age of 47. My compassion and views on this subject come from protecting and respecting my beautiful mother and those girls. Women will always have my utmost respect and my mother most of all for allowing me the chance to succeed in spite of the way I was brought into this world. By the way, I never said that these animals were still around. I said that the law never caught them. My mother never had to fear that these beasts would do this again, to her or anyone else.

That said, respecting women will never allow me to believe that abortion is anything less than murder.

johnr9999 Loc: Carlton, OR

photosbysexton wrote:

quote=docrob That was a heartless, compassionless... (show quote)

You are correct, I did not ask for compassion from you, nor did I come back to my question as to how one could be so cruel in their replies. However, as racer pointed out, education has a tendecy to convince some that they are superior to those who are assumed to not have it.

And, my mother happily raised 8 of us. Me, and 7 younger sisters. She lived a happy but short life, passing at the age of 47. My compassion and views on this subject come from protecting and respecting my beautiful mother and those girls. Women will always have my utmost respect and my mother most of all for allowing me the chance to succeed in spite of the way I was brought into this world. By the way, I never said that these animals were still around. I said that the law never caught them. My mother never had to fear that these beasts would do this again, to her or anyone else.

That said, respecting women will never allow me to believe that abortion is anything less than murder.[/quote]
Photosexton,
When I read your account I felt immediate compassion for you, sadness for your mother and now, joy in how you turned out and how your mother overcame her tragedy. To me, docrob seems the very essence of the self educated, semi-intellectual, effete snobs that due to their own deficiencies denigrate others. Abortion is murder. You are the example of why it should be avoided. I celebrate your life.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

johnr9999 wrote:

photosbysexton wrote:

quote=docrob That was a heartless, compassionless... (show quote)

You are correct, I did not ask for compassion from you, nor did I come back to my question as to how one could be so cruel in their replies. However, as racer pointed out, education has a tendecy to convince some that they are superior to those who are assumed to not have it.

And, my mother happily raised 8 of us. Me, and 7 younger sisters. She lived a happy but short life, passing at the age of 47. My compassion and views on this subject come from protecting and respecting my beautiful mother and those girls. Women will always have my utmost respect and my mother most of all for allowing me the chance to succeed in spite of the way I was brought into this world. By the way, I never said that these animals were still around. I said that the law never caught them. My mother never had to fear that these beasts would do this again, to her or anyone else.

That said, respecting women will never allow me to believe that abortion is anything less than murder.

quote=photosbysexton quote=docrob That was a hea... (show quote)

Photosexton,
When I read your account I felt immediate compassion for you, sadness for your mother and now, joy in how you turned out and how your mother overcame her tragedy. To me, docrob seems the very essence of the self educated, semi-intellectual, effete snobs that due to their own deficiencies denigrate others. Abortion is murder. You are the example of why it should be avoided. I celebrate your life.[/quote]

compassion is for all - yeah even simi-intellectual effete snobs - who just like you also have our own deficiencies or is it just limited to those who tell a good story and elicit a few sobs?

Any way glad I can be the scape goat for all this. And you can sleep better at night knowing your in the right and all is right with the world and little babies never die of hunger or thirst......

And god keeps his eye on us all........

lachmap Loc: Sydney Australia

That is of course if you believe in a God. I don't believe in fairies either.

johnr9999 Loc: Carlton, OR

docrob wrote:

johnr9999 wrote:

photosbysexton wrote:

quote=docrob That was a heartless, compassionless... (show quote)

You are correct, I did not ask for compassion from you, nor did I come back to my question as to how one could be so cruel in their replies. However, as racer pointed out, education has a tendecy to convince some that they are superior to those who are assumed to not have it.

And, my mother happily raised 8 of us. Me, and 7 younger sisters. She lived a happy but short life, passing at the age of 47. My compassion and views on this subject come from protecting and respecting my beautiful mother and those girls. Women will always have my utmost respect and my mother most of all for allowing me the chance to succeed in spite of the way I was brought into this world. By the way, I never said that these animals were still around. I said that the law never caught them. My mother never had to fear that these beasts would do this again, to her or anyone else.

That said, respecting women will never allow me to believe that abortion is anything less than murder.

quote=photosbysexton quote=docrob That was a hea... (show quote)

Photosexton,
When I read your account I felt immediate compassion for you, sadness for your mother and now, joy in how you turned out and how your mother overcame her tragedy. To me, docrob seems the very essence of the self educated, semi-intellectual, effete snobs that due to their own deficiencies denigrate others. Abortion is murder. You are the example of why it should be avoided. I celebrate your life.

quote=johnr9999 quote=photosbysexton quote=docr... (show quote)

compassion is for all - yeah even simi-intellectual effete snobs - who just like you also have our own deficiencies or is it just limited to those who tell a good story and elicit a few sobs?

Any way glad I can be the scape goat for all this. And you can sleep better at night knowing your in the right and all is right with the world and little babies never die of hunger or thirst......

And god keeps his eye on us all........[/quote]
Semi
And you see, there it is and you don't see it.

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

Did you ever notice that wherever a state on the west coast, north, the great lakes, or the east coast touches a large body of water, it has sucked their brains out!

Richard Riedl Loc: brandon fl

You did not read the plank that will be presented at the RNC by the Platform commitee. You sir are in error.

lachmap Loc: Sydney Australia

bvm wrote:

Did you ever notice that wherever a state on the west coast, north, the great lakes, or the east coast touches a large body of water, it has sucked their brains out!

Why do people have to belittle those that they don't agree with? This is the argument of people that are not very good at this.