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We have a great astronomical record for determining the age of the universe.
Yes...and like I said...evidence is interpreted based on a person's starting presuppositions; which is why we come to such distinctly different conclusions using the same exact evidence.
The real question is; who's starting assumptions are worth holding?
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Likewise there are certain physical laws which don't change.
Awesome! Which make perfect sense within the Christian worldview but if the Evolutionary worldview is true, there'd be no reason for them to exist nor be consistent. No logical reason at all. They are ONLY able to be justified within the Christian worldview. If you'd like to take a shot at explaining why they exist in the first place be my guest.
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I can see what the Hubble Space Telescope sees, and it sees almost to the Big Bang.
No you can't. You can conjecture about what happened in the past based on observations in the present; see comment #1 again about presuppositions.
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Newer telescopes like Chandra and Weber provide history as nothing has before.
No they don't. See answer above.
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Stars have certain lifespans, and behave in certain manners. Through nuclear fusion, elements are created at predictable rates. Elements found on earth are found in particular patterns, predicted by the behavior of exploding stars. The numbers in astronomy and physics have been proven over and over, and not from the same people.
Yes! and that amazing uniformity is to be expected in a universe that God created! But unfortunately in a universe that is the product of random chance processes it's not.
FYI: MANY of the pioneers of science were bible believing Christians.
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The fossil records of ancient creatures is not an extrapolation.
It most certainly is. Sure, fossils exist...they exist for Christians and Evolutionists alike but the conclusions drawn are all about starting assumptions of each group.
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The KT boundary is not mythology.
Certainly it's not..it's a result of the worldwide flood.
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The near-total extinctions hundreds of millions of years ago are not made up of whole cloth.
Whole cloth...perfect description of what you just said.
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The biblical flood couldn't have happened several thousand years ago. Water at that depth would have wiped out everything, yet there's no evidence of a "Great Flood" anywhere else in the world.
See my repeated answers about evidence and assumptions.
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The Bible doesn't explain just how Cain got a wife, if Adam and Eve were the first people on earth.
Lol...trotting out that old chestnut are we?
Cain married his sister or another close female relative. Done. Quit trying that one on Christians.
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Yet, if the story is metaphorical, you have millions of folks who take Genesis at face value.
It's not and I certainly hope they do...God cannot lie or be mistaken (unlike men who do both with regularity.)
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Religionists can't see the science because they can't get the concept that evolution is a long-term, almost invisible process.
Wrong.
Christians specifically have no problem with science...many of the giants of science were bible believing Christians. What we do have a problem with is the Pseudo of Molecules-to-man evolutionary fairy tale.
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You can't see rocks go to dust, you can't see a one-celled creature evolve.
Lol...more fairy tales.
If you want to know what is anti-science then look no further than Molecules-to-man evolution. It's anything BUT science.
Do creatures adapt?
Yes!
Speciation?
Yes!
No problem. That's observable science.
It's when you try and conflate that with fake evolutionary fairy tales that it ceases to be science.
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Humans have a minuscule concept of time, therefore unable in most cases to grasp just how long it takes for evolutionary changes to occur.
No...we don't.
We just disagree that it's true.
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Evolution is barely generational for the tiniest changes. Man walking upright probably took multi-thousands of years.
Men walked upright from the time they were created by God...they were men...they are men....that's it.
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Humans measure time and events from their own birth. "You are what you were when...", to quote Morris Massey.
Sorry...I'll take the word of the one who was there at the beginning over fairy tales that change with each generation but are stated as fact each time before they change.
I'll end with this.
Science isn't even possible without presupposing God. There is no reason to think that in a universe that's the product of an accident, and beings who are the product of chemical reactions and random chance mutations would be able to trust their reasoning. Christians know that we can trust our reasoning in a basic way because God created us as reasoning beings in a world where there are universal, invariant, transcendent laws of reasoning and nature.
I've yet to see any evolutionist give a rational justification for the existence of the laws of logic, or any of the physical laws (beyond saying that "Hey! they exist and we use them!) which is a non answer...devoid of intellectual horsepower.