GOP Platform Plans Constitutional amendment prohibiting Abortions, No exception for incest or Rape (Page 9): Yep...

Zenith701 Loc: Southern California

Yep

photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN

docrob wrote:

photosbysexton wrote:

So let's punish the unborn child for that teenagers CHOICE? Yeah. Good call.

I remember when I was young, my grandfather once told me that "you choose your parents". I imagined then a young baby sorting through photo after photo carefully deciding, "those will be my parents". Imagine the horror when that vacuum and scraper came into this temporary 9 month home 7 months early. Imagine what that baby is thinking now.

FYI, I am the product of a 15 year old girl being raped by 5 monsters just one block from home. I may not be on the same intillectual level of your precious Barry Soteros or any of your other gods, but at least I had the chance and most that know me, adore me and respect my successes.

That teenage girl isn't being punished for her choices, she is being held responsible and accountable for her actions as we all should be. You call it punishment all you want.. I will continue to believe that when you are held responsible, you are not enslaved, you are empowered.

docrob wrote:

quote=Zenith701 You are right about one thing. I... (show quote)

So let's punish the unborn child for that teenager... (show quote)

so your saying that you chose to be created via an act of violent gang rape?

Man, you got some heavy karma!

I don't know where or how Barry Soteros or any other gods entered this discussion....maybe that came through the ether?

Curious to whom those five monsters were held accountable too and for what consequences and responsibilities they were made to accept?

quote=photosbysexton So let's punish the unborn c... (show quote)

The Obama reference was meant as an example, the way some of you hold him in such high regards. "I may not be . . ."

How you became so cruel in your responses is a question for another time.

We won't get into the details, but my family is from "old" Detroit. The law never got them, but I'm positive that they are being punished through eternity.

My point on choosing my parents would have been long before the rape. Again my imagination would have seen these people as upstanding and someone worth my love and devotion. This, in spite of their behavior after I had chosen.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

bvm wrote:

Whose talking about sinning. How about stupidity? ... (show quote)

beats me - i use the word "sin" as a shortcut so that I don't have to spell out it's history every time. The concept of "sin" is as out dated as the Chastity belts we used in those Middle Ages to keep girls from having fun. errr consequences.

As for your line of reasoning I agree but what I can't quite figure out is how that way of thinking squares with the Republican ideas that the way to teach kids to be smart AND responsible about sex is to tell them nothing about it. To basically try and keep them in the dark about sex and that they just need to wait!

How contradictory is that?

Cause your right - back when me and my friends were stupid studs if we happened to find a girl that would have sex with us you think we weren't doing it as much as we could as often as we could in every way we could think of doing it??? I mean come on - to not take advantage of that would be truly idiotic..............but of course you really mean that it's ok for us guys to be horndogs and slut around but any girl who would have sex every day is well.......you know Rush told us. Need I say more?

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

photosbysexton wrote:

docrob wrote:

photosbysexton wrote:

So let's punish the unborn child for that teenagers CHOICE? Yeah. Good call.

I remember when I was young, my grandfather once told me that "you choose your parents". I imagined then a young baby sorting through photo after photo carefully deciding, "those will be my parents". Imagine the horror when that vacuum and scraper came into this temporary 9 month home 7 months early. Imagine what that baby is thinking now.

FYI, I am the product of a 15 year old girl being raped by 5 monsters just one block from home. I may not be on the same intillectual level of your precious Barry Soteros or any of your other gods, but at least I had the chance and most that know me, adore me and respect my successes.

That teenage girl isn't being punished for her choices, she is being held responsible and accountable for her actions as we all should be. You call it punishment all you want.. I will continue to believe that when you are held responsible, you are not enslaved, you are empowered.

docrob wrote:

quote=Zenith701 You are right about one thing. I... (show quote)

So let's punish the unborn child for that teenager... (show quote)

so your saying that you chose to be created via an act of violent gang rape?

Man, you got some heavy karma!

I don't know where or how Barry Soteros or any other gods entered this discussion....maybe that came through the ether?

Curious to whom those five monsters were held accountable too and for what consequences and responsibilities they were made to accept?

quote=photosbysexton So let's punish the unborn c... (show quote)

The Obama reference was meant as an example, the way some of you hold him in such high regards. "I may not be . . ."

How you became so cruel in your responses is a question for another time.

We won't get into the details, but my family is from "old" Detroit. The law never got them, but I'm positive that they are being punished through eternity.

My point on choosing my parents would have been long before the rape. Again my imagination would have seen these people as upstanding and someone worth my love and devotion. This, in spite of their behavior after I had chosen.

quote=docrob quote=photosbysexton So let's punis... (show quote)

you can ask that other question any time you want.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

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johnr9999 wrote:

We try to teach our children based on the mistake... (show quote)

Yawn.

dtcracer

wbym300 wrote:

Huffington post, is that a an authority that I should be reading and believing?

No, leftwing liberal propaganda agency.

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

docrob wrote:

How many children have you birthed into this world? How many mouths have suckled on your nipples? How many abandoned kids have you brought home to love and nurture? How easy is it for men to form opinions on subjects we do not understand and then pretend to speak on behalf of some higher moral authority that allows us to judge the choices of others. How long will we continue to call upon the phallic godhead as proof of some "god-given" right to dictate our desires upon women.

I just would like to point out that quite a few women would "dictate their desires upon woman" because they believe abortion is morally wrong.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

JBTaylor wrote:

quote=docrob br How many children have you birth... (show quote)

no doubt but they have voices don't they? And if so let them speak.

photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN

I guess what bothers me most about this topic is the choice itself. Are you choosing your body over the life of a child? It has been proven that the heart beats just 19 days after conception. Most women don't even know they are pregnant by then.

And then the other thing; how do they feel later in life? Especially after they've given birth to another child. How does one explain to this child that they would have had a sibling had they not taken this child's life?

No, I really don't believe that the gov't should have their hands in this decision, as they don't belong in many other aspects of our lives, ie; financial support, business, health care, etc. So, I guess I could be considered pro choice, but would always choose life.

Another thing I don't understand; why are most pro-choicers against capital punishment? Seems a bit backwards to me. A child never given the chance to live vs an animal whom has committed murders and rapes. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Whether produced by a brutal crime or a loving couple. I along with MOST that know me are happy that she chose life. May she rest in peace and GOD BLESS HER SOUL.

photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN

I also think that we should make it fair. How about we allow that child to abort the parents when they reach a certain age? You libs are all about fairness, right?

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

photosbysexton wrote:

I also think that we should make it fair. How about we allow that child to abort the parents when they reach a certain age? You libs are all about fairness, right?

Children can petition the court for emancipation from their parents.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

photosbysexton wrote:

I guess what bothers me most about this topic is t... (show quote)

Why would or should someone need to tell another about such a very personal and difficult choice? A friend sure. A lover maybe. But why feel compelled to tell a child "oh by the way baby you would have had a sister only i killed it." Probably not the most appropriate and certainly not a necessary "confession" to make is it?

photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN

[quote=BW326]The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
- J.K.

Who is JK Galbraith?

photosbysexton Loc: Knoxville, TN

If you wish to live a life of lies, that's your choice. But an honorable adult teaches their children about life through honest, open discussion of their past and their mistakes. Knowledge comes from learning from your mistakes, wisdom comes from learning from others and theirs.

docrob wrote:

quote=photosbysexton I guess what bothers me most... (show quote)

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

Well let's see.
According to Oblame-O, women like "Julia" ( which is another of his racist subliminals, otherwise he would have named her Julie) are incapable of taking care of themselves without the paternalism of the government.

Yeah, he's like his pimp friends ( who engage in todays slavery) and that's were he wants woman to be. Now don't get me wrong there'll be enough Madams to take up any slack ( Valerie G. or Debbie Wasserman Schultz).

I think there are enough smart American women WHOSE VOTE CANNOT BE BOUGHT FOR $360 WORTH OF BIRTH CONTROL PILLS. Woman are a lot smarter than that. Women are smart persons but then there are some that fall for smooth talkers like him.

Mark my words, Sandra Fluke, ( who goes to Georgetown University law school- $60,000 per year, which she gets for free ) saw the light and hopes she'll become a big deal in the DemocRAT party.

If you look at history, morals or the lack of them is like a pendulum, I think people like her, were born 50 years to late and it may start to swing back. She will have missed the boat and have to endure the ride back to common sense.