Upgrading my Sony a65
Jan 7, 2019 14:04:26 #
chapjohn wrote:
I really liked my A77ii and it did a good job. However, going FF is where you will see the biggest improvement. As suggested above, consider the 99ii. It is basically the A7Rii with a translucent mirror for the A mount lens system.
John … a7RII w/ a translucent mirror????
The a7RII is a MILC!!!!!
Maybe, you wrote that wrong, huh?
mea culpa … think I'm the one who read it wrong … Peace, bro'
Jan 7, 2019 14:11:30 #
SierraP
Loc: Eastern Sierras
I went from Sony A55 to A77, love it. Looked at the A77II but it had no GPS but did have several features that were of no use to me. Which ever one you choose you will love the upgrades. Yes, All of the Minoltas AF lenses work fine.
Jan 7, 2019 14:21:50 #
wmurnahan wrote:
Thank you for that clarification. Now lets talk about lenses and trying to figure out if is a a-mount apc or FF or a e-mount apc or FF. Four different lens lines and only two designations. Makes you pay attention to all the letters in the model number.
Yes, you're right, Bill - Sony has three ILC body lines, and only TWO variances of mount - E and a …
The implication there is you can use the same E lens, on both the a5100 and the a9 !!!!!!
BUT, you can only use a-mount lenses on the current a-mount SLTs - a68, a77 II and a99 II (FF) …
How an 18-55 would work on an a99 II - I really don't know, since I don't have the latter, but it'd fit!!!!
Jan 7, 2019 15:01:27 #
Chris T wrote:
Yes, you're right, Bill - Sony has three ILC body lines, and only TWO variances of mount - E and a …
The implication there is you can use the same E lens, on both the a5100 and the a9 !!!!!!
BUT, you can only use a-mount lenses on the current a-mount SLTs - a68, a77 II and a99 II (FF) …
How an 18-55 would work on an a99 II - I really don't know, since I don't have the latter, but it'd fit!!!!
The implication there is you can use the same E lens, on both the a5100 and the a9 !!!!!!
BUT, you can only use a-mount lenses on the current a-mount SLTs - a68, a77 II and a99 II (FF) …
How an 18-55 would work on an a99 II - I really don't know, since I don't have the latter, but it'd fit!!!!
As an owner of the a99ii and former owner of the a65. All of the older Minolta, Konica, and newer Sony A-mount lenses will fit on the a77, a77ii, and a99ii. The a99ii has a mode to manually or automatically adjust to (DT) APS-C lenses. Happy Shooting
Jan 7, 2019 15:31:31 #
ORpilot wrote:
As an owner of the a99ii and former owner of the a65. All of the older Minolta, Konica, and newer Sony A-mount lenses will fit on the a77, a77ii, and a99ii. The a99ii has a mode to manually or automatically adjust to (DT) APS-C lenses. Happy Shooting
When you use that mode on the a99 II - what does it crop to, or doesn't it, OR?
Furthermore, since the a99 II uses a 42MP sensor, and the a77/a77 II/a65 are all 24MP - what's the loss?
Jan 7, 2019 15:38:52 #
Your Totally Wrong! All my Minolta AF lenses work perfectly in Autofocus mode. I know because I own the a77ii and several Minolta lenses from the 80’s!
bnsf wrote:
I had a Sony a77M2 Camera until l upgraded it to t... (show quote)
Jan 7, 2019 15:56:40 #
markwilliam1 wrote:
Your Totally Wrong! All my Minolta AF lenses work perfectly in Autofocus mode. I know because I own the a77ii and several Minolta lenses from the 80’s!
Mark - think it depends a great deal on WHEN the Minolta glass was manufactured. There are late model Minolta AF lenses which work perfectly fine with Sony SLT cameras (and the a850 and a900) but, some earlier ones only do work in Manual Mode. Just like with Canon when they abandoned FD and went with EOS - there were some glitches, but Minolta glass eventually evolved. The introduction of the Konica AF line had a lot to do with it, too. As they merged - the two companies started making mutually adaptive lenses.
Jan 7, 2019 16:50:58 #
Yes that’s what I’m referring to the Minolta AF lenses from the early 80’s! I own several as previously stated. I believe All the Minolta AF lenses will work with Full autofocus on the Sony a77ii and it’s A mount. Not what the OP said that they all need to be in manual mode to focus. Not positive though just referring to the Legasy glass from the early 80’s
Jan 7, 2019 17:20:28 #
Again some confusion about the nomenclature. Both the a65 and a77 were introduced around 2011.
The a77ii dates from 2015 as I recollect. The a6500 from 2016.
The a65, a77 and a77ii are APS-C A mount cameras, with SLT mirrors. The a6500 is APS-C, E mount, and mirrorless.
The a77ii dates from 2015 as I recollect. The a6500 from 2016.
The a65, a77 and a77ii are APS-C A mount cameras, with SLT mirrors. The a6500 is APS-C, E mount, and mirrorless.
imagemeister wrote:
Since the A65 is newer than the A77II, I would not expect much (if any) improvement in noise.....I would look more to a used A99. - I have used an A77II for 3 years now.
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Jan 7, 2019 17:22:13 #
My only problem l had with my Sony a77m2 was when l purchased a Tamron 100-600mm lens. When l was at 600mm the auto focus would not work. I would use manuel focus and it would respond nicely. Contacted Tamron and sent it in for exchange for new one same problem. Problem was in the camera. Went to camera shop with camera and lens told them of problem with camera. They tried there new camera same problem. But manual focus would be fine. Lens was set along with camera to manuel focus and it would respond nicely. Figure it out. Sony could not figure it out either, but put the same lens on the a99m2 and it responded nicely in both modes. It just did not like me. No 600 auto focus lens liked me or my A77m2 camera. Figure it out. The lens loves my a99m2.
Jan 7, 2019 17:29:47 #
Chris T wrote:
When you use that mode on the a99 II - what does it crop to, or doesn't it, OR?
Furthermore, since the a99 II uses a 42MP sensor, and the a77/a77 II/a65 are all 24MP - what's the loss?
Furthermore, since the a99 II uses a 42MP sensor, and the a77/a77 II/a65 are all 24MP - what's the loss?
When using APS-c lenses on my a99ii it will be an APS-c-35mm super format in the viewfinder and the MP drops down to about 18mp. The internal computer expands the image up to FF size. Or you can leave to auto mode off and get a slightly larger but rounded image at some wide settings but it will be 42mp. I just now checked this with a 18-70mm DT Konica-Minolta lens. With APS-C off, the 18-70 DT crops from 18mm to about 27mm then the frame is full thought 70mm. I leave my camera in auto mode so I never notice the difference other than the 42 to 18mp difference.
Jan 7, 2019 17:36:39 #
markwilliam1 wrote:
Yes that’s what I’m referring to the Minolta AF lenses from the early 80’s! I own several as previously stated. I believe All the Minolta AF lenses will work with Full autofocus on the Sony a77ii and it’s A mount. Not what the OP said that they all need to be in manual mode to focus. Not positive though just referring to the Legasy glass from the early 80’s
Thereyago, Mark … I think it's worth noting, here, there have been just about 30 Sony dig cams, since the takeover of Minolta by Sony - only about a dozen of which have been SLTs. The previous 20 or so (3-digit) were all regular DSLRs - culminating in the a850 and a900 professional models. ALL of them are a-mount, whether SLT (2-digit) or regular DSLRs. Since they were ALL a-mount cameras - ALL Konica, Minolta, AND present-day Sony alpha a-mount lenses will fit on them. But, as you've so noted, only the Minolta and Konica AF lenses will AF on the Sony DSLRs and SLT cameras - of which, only the a68, a77 II and a99 II are current. However, the older a58, and a77 models are still around, and you can still find the a99, used, too.
Jan 7, 2019 17:39:06 #
TomV
Loc: Annapolis, Maryland
bnsf wrote:
I had a Sony a77M2 Camera until l upgraded it to t... (show quote)
The Minoltas A-mount work in AF on a Sony if they are AF to begin with. The previous Minolta mount is Manual only with an inexpensive adapter ring.
Jan 7, 2019 17:52:27 #
ORpilot wrote:
When using APS-c lenses on my a99ii it will be an ... (show quote)
I also have two very old Minolta Maxxum lenses off my Minolta Maxxum 7000i film camera and they work fine including AF on my a99ii. I have some test shots of the 18-70mm DT lens. Notice the 42M in the top center of the frame. That is showing 42mp then in the last one it switches to 18m (18Mp) since I have switched the mode to APS-C auto. I hope that this helps. With both the a77ii and a99ii you have 5 axces stabization. That puts stabilization on all your lenses including old Minolta lenses or aftermarket lenses. Yes you can teach an old dog new tricks.
Minolta 18-70mm on the a99ii
18mm APS-C off
70mm APS-C off
APS-C st to Auto
18mm in APS-C Auto
Jan 7, 2019 18:03:26 #
ORpilot wrote:
When using APS-c lenses on my a99ii it will be an ... (show quote)
That's a big drop, OR - you're talking about less than half the res!!! … My Goodness!!!!
So - an 18mm (variant) becomes 27mm on the a99 II … wonder what the Tokina 11-16 becomes, then.
Or, don't you use / have - that one, OR?
Anyway, it's good the a99 II recognizes the smaller APS-C crop lenses, and adjusts accordingly …
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