Another Death (Page 5): A zygote and an early stage fetus are brimming with life. Many believe it is human life from the moment of conception. Some think its not human till after...

mwalsh Loc: Houston

Rose42 wrote:

Does' science consider amoebas life? Or bacteria? If life exists in such simple organisms how can one say a human life doesn't exist until later?

A zygote and an early stage fetus are brimming with life. Many believe it is human life from the moment of conception. Some think its not human till after birth, or at least until it is "viable" outside the womb.

I don't see a fertilized egg as a human being. But I could not tell you when it becomes human.

I find the "viability" argument rather shallow. If viability is the measure of a human life, we should eliminate intensive care units. People become unviable every day due to illness or accident. If "viability" is the standard, we should just let them make it or die on their own. Premature birth babies are not viable, yet so many are nurtured in intensive care until they are viable.

A woman does have the right to make decisions regarding her body and health. But at some point the little life in her belly has rights also, rights which override the woman's right to end its little life. That point is pretty early in the course of a pregnancy in my opinion.

Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.

Architect1776 wrote:

No border security, sanctuary state has cost another American life, Cpl. Ronil Singh. Taken away from his family permanently Christmas day.
How many lives must be taken and families separated and destroyed, children's parents murdered and children murdered before we get serious and seal the borders and remove the scum that are here illegally destroying lives.

If y'all paid a little more attention to what your idol is doing to your country, you'd notice he'll have you at war very soon. He's hell bent on conflict, internal or external? It's almost set up now for internal with such a divisive bunch like many on here.
He's ruffled the feathers of most international leaders. They all think he's an idiot. And all you ppl think about is his wall.
Next it'll be another to Canada.
You've got much more to worry about in Trump.

FrumCA

Twardlow wrote:

Wall won’t help. Most “illegals” fly in and overstay their work or educational visas.

Care to share your verified source of this information? And while you are at it, define 'most'. Four or five years ago someone pegged the fly in percentage of people who overstay their visa around 40% but that was not verified. So, to believe this and not accept the fact a wall might keep another large percentage of folks out (I'm not going to try to predict what that might be) is folly and representative of your do nothing, open borders mentality.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Huey Driver wrote:

The problem isn't that Demorats don't think the wall will work but that Trump will get the credit when it does.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Bunko.T wrote:

If y'all paid a little more attention to what your idol is doing to your country, you'd notice he'll have you at war very soon. He's hell bent on conflict, internal or external? It's almost set up now for internal with such a divisive bunch like many on here.
He's ruffled the feathers of most international leaders. They all think he's an idiot. And all you ppl think about is his wall.
Next it'll be another to Canada.
You've got much more to worry about in Trump.

War with whom?
Please name the potential adversaries you see externally or internally who will be fighting and whom will they be fighting.
You comment is retarded and stupid and worthless without the names of the potential adversaries.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Twardlow wrote:

Say what you will, when you arrest someone your are responsible for them—even in Sing Sing.

Let us not throw Strawmen into the conversation.
The death we are talking about is that of a law enforcement officer. He was shot by a repeat offender that had been deported before, and was arrested and released by the Sanctuary State of Ca.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

jcboy3 wrote:

Your insult is telling.

Your lack of knowledge it telling.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Patrick Frazee, fiancé of missing Colorado woman Kelsey Berreth, charged in her murder
Kelsey Berreth was last seen in public at a grocery store in Woodland Park, Colorado, on Nov. 22.

When are these white Christian males going to stop killing! When will we start deporting them back to where they came form!

FOOL

Architect1776 wrote:

No border security, sanctuary state has cost another American life, Cpl. Ronil Singh. Taken away from his family permanently Christmas day.
How many lives must be taken and families separated and destroyed, children's parents murdered and children murdered before we get serious and seal the borders and remove the scum that are here illegally destroying lives.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

ole sarg wrote:

Patrick Frazee, fiancé of missing Colorado woman Kelsey Berreth, charged in her murder
Kelsey Berreth was last seen in public at a grocery store in Woodland Park, Colorado, on Nov. 22.

When are these white Christian males going to stop killing! When will we start deporting them back to where they came form!

FOOL

??????
And your proof of white Christian males?
And where would you send them back to?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

wooden_ships wrote:

unlikely any American went to Guatemala and told i... (show quote)

BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky

FrumCA wrote:

Care to share your verified source of this information? And while you are at it, define 'most'. Four or five years ago someone pegged the fly in percentage of people who overstay their visa around 40% but that was not verified. So, to believe this and not accept the fact a wall might keep another large percentage of folks out (I'm not going to try to predict what that might be) is folly and representative of your do nothing, open borders mentality.

"Border crossings don't even account for a majority of the people joining the unauthorized population in a given year. In fiscal 2016, for instance, the Department of Homeland Security estimated 628,799 people who had previously entered the country legally overstayed their visa that year. Other groups, such as the Center for Migration Studies, have similarly estimated that visa overstays account for about two-thirds of the total number of people joining the undocumented population in any given year.

“The number attempting to get across the Southern border is probably the lowest it's been since at least the 1970s,” said Robert Warren, a demographer with the Center for Migration Studies. “I'm surprised the [Trump] administration hasn't really focused on overstays. That's where the action is.”"

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

BigWahoo wrote:

"Border crossings don't even account for a ma... (show quote)

One thing at a time.
Drain the swamp and it is a huge swamp.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

What amazes me is that this post is about a LEO murdered by a once deported illegal that was released by the Sanctuary state of Ca. Back into the public without waiting for ICE to take charge. The thread went off track on page one and never once got back on track. It was not about the wall, not about Trump, and not about abortion. It is time for all to read beyond the post title before unloading crap on the thread.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

letmedance wrote:

What amazes me is that this post is about a LEO murdered by a once deported illegal that was released by the Sanctuary state of Ca. Back into the public without waiting for ICE to take charge. The thread went of track on page one and never once got back on track. It was not about, the wall, not about Trump, and not about abortion. It is time for all to read beyond the post title before unloading crap on the thread.

If you notice it is always the leftist/democrat aka communists on this site that make a point of changing the subject and getting it into bashing the President when they know that their position is 100% wrong, immoral and untenable.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

ole sarg wrote:

Patrick Frazee, fiancé of missing Colorado woman Kelsey Berreth, charged in her murder
Kelsey Berreth was last seen in public at a grocery store in Woodland Park, Colorado, on Nov. 22.

When are these white Christian males going to stop killing! When will we start deporting them back to where they came form!

FOOL

Another Strawman, give it up fool.