Trump: Government Won’t Open ‘Until We Have a Wall’ (Page 2): Yes he was and is proud. You libs just now here though said it was the republican house. So which is it?

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Bazbo wrote:

Wait...Trump said we was proud of the shut down, remember? Your side owns this....lock, stock and two smoking barrels.

Plus, in another post on this very thread you implied that the shutdown would improve peoples lives. So, in your "logical" construct, then Democrats shold get the credit, right?

Yes he was and is proud.
You libs just now here though said it was the republican house.
So which is it?

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Architect1776 wrote:

Then we can get competent private screeners rather than worthless tsa that screen old ladies and babies while ignoring the muslim with bombs strapped to his body as that might be considered profiling.

So private screeners are willing to wok without pay? You are arguing yourself in circles.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Architect1776 wrote:

Yes he was and is proud.
You libs just now here though said it was the republican house.
So which is it?

I said nothing of the sort. Go ask you nearly incoherent question to someone else.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Bazbo wrote:

So private screeners are willing to wok without pay? You are arguing yourself in circles.

They will not be government employees. Airlines/terminals/passengers will pay them as before.
They were better than TSA ever has been.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Bazbo wrote:

I said nothing of the sort. Go ask you nearly incoherent question to someone else.

Here is the quote, as you seem to not be able to read.

"JCboy3"
Quote: "Trump can't keep the government closed. But House Republicans can continue to do so. The markets will tank, the economy will crumble, and 2020 will destroy the Republican party for good.

I think that sounds pretty good."

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Architect1776 wrote:

They will not be government employees. Airlines/terminals/passengers will pay them as before.
They were better than TSA ever has been.

And you still expect them to work without pay? You should know by now that shape-shifting dos not work with me.

You said that our lives will be better with a government shutdown. I offered one concrete example where that is clearly not the case and you respond by saying tsa will be replaced by private screeners and you run away from the logical question of who will pay the private screeners if the government says shut down.

You either cannot follow a conversation or you have the attention span of a young puppy.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Architect1776 wrote:

Here is the quote, as you seem to not be able to read.

"JCboy3"
Quote: "Trump can't keep the government closed. But House Republicans can continue to do so. The markets will tank, the economy will crumble, and 2020 will destroy the Republican party for good.

I think that sounds pretty good."

Then ask JCboy3. I did not say it (as I pointed out before). You are the one with apparent reading deficiencies.

jcboy3

Architect1776 wrote:

Here is the quote, as you seem to not be able to read.

"JCboy3"
Quote: "Trump can't keep the government closed. But House Republicans can continue to do so. The markets will tank, the economy will crumble, and 2020 will destroy the Republican party for good.

I think that sounds pretty good."

As I said in a later post, Congress can override a Presidents veto by 2/3 vote on both houses. So Trump can't keep it closed unless Congress allows it. But it only takes a 1/3 minority to keep from overriding a veto, so even if Democrats "control" the House, neither party controls enough to override a veto. So it is up to some number of House Republicans to vote to ensure an end to the shutdown (plus assuming that the Senate confirms its previous vote).

Trump spawned the shutdown, Trump can work to keep the shutdown. Republicans control whether the shutdown ends. Seems clear to me.

Any questions?

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

jcboy3 wrote:

As I said in a later post, Congress can override a... (show quote)

Archie often lies by omission and taking things out of context. Kind of a trademark of his.

Rose42

jcboy3 wrote:

Trump can't keep the government closed. But House Republicans can continue to do so. The markets will tank, the economy will crumble, and 2020 will destroy the Republican party for good.

I think that sounds pretty good.

If the republican party dies then we'll be in big trouble as the democrats have continuously proven they are a corrupt party too.

There is no good in that. It would be better if both parties were destroyed and we got new ones minus the self-serving politicians that are in both today.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Rose42 wrote:

If the republican party dies then we'll be in big trouble as the democrats have continuously proven they are a corrupt party too.

There is no good in that. It would be better if both parties were destroyed and we got new ones minus the self-serving politicians that are in both today.

I don't want to live in a one party state, even if it is my party.

jcboy3

Rose42 wrote:

If the republican party dies then we'll be in big trouble as the democrats have continuously proven they are a corrupt party too.

There is no good in that. It would be better if both parties were destroyed and we got new ones minus the self-serving politicians that are in both today.

If they keep the shutdown going, if they keep obstructing immigration reform, if they keep kowtowing the the right wing fringe, then they will deserve to be relegated to the fringe.

Unfortunately, it is practically impossible to start a new party, given the legal impediments. But maybe that is what is needed; massive election reform.

Rose42

jcboy3 wrote:

If they keep the shutdown going, if they keep obstructing immigration reform, if they keep kowtowing the the right wing fringe, then they will deserve to be relegated to the fringe.

Unfortunately, it is practically impossible to start a new party, given the legal impediments. But maybe that is what is needed; massive election reform.

The republicans need to shake themselves out of the stupor they're in but there aren't many signs of them doing that.

I think we do need massive election reform but the career politicians have a good thing going and have little incentive to go forward with it.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Bazbo wrote:

I don't want to live in a one party state, even if it is my party.

I fully believe we already live in a one party state, Ca.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Architect is a Russian troll!

Bazbo wrote:

Wait...Trump said we was proud of the shut down, remember? Your side owns this....lock, stock and two smoking barrels.

Plus, in another post on this very thread you implied that the shutdown would improve peoples lives. So, in your "logical" construct, then Democrats shold get the credit, right?