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Dec 23, 2018 20:58:39   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
jcboy3 wrote:
No. But that is irrelevant.


Irrelevant! How do you know it is true besides in a song.

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Dec 23, 2018 21:02:37   #
jcboy3
 
Wrangler wrote:
Irrelevant! How do you know it is true besides in a song.


Really. That’s your argument? You obviously missed the point. Go read some history.

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Dec 23, 2018 21:19:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
cwp3420 wrote:
How many languages do you speak, Genius? Don't have the stones to answer?


How many psychiatrists have quit on you? I've never claimed to be multilingual. (If you need me to I can post a definition for you) I'd like to be, but most Americans aren't, especially if they were born here.

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Dec 23, 2018 21:29:17   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wrangler wrote:
I never saw any babies or villages get naped and I never heard of that happening.


Would you have seen it? How high is it dropped from?
What does bomb bomb bomb bomb bomm iran have to do with your war? Here's a song for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxSR4ZaDpBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_2hlKqRTPg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqu6mXOXmx4

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Dec 23, 2018 21:40:16   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
thom w wrote:
Would you have seen it? How high is it dropped from?
What does bomb bomb bomb bomb bomm iran have to do with your war? Here's a song for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxSR4ZaDpBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_2hlKqRTPg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqu6mXOXmx4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjbq6GT-PM&index=12&list=RDPqu6mXOXmx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1fVMKgzR6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTyqoV1d2Ys

This ones not about Vietnam, but it fits on this forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwwNu-pt0U&list=RDPqu6mXOXmx4&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_AdEgRpxS8&list=RDPqu6mXOXmx4&index=8


There are plenty of wounds to rip open if that's what we want to do. Most of us were kids. Is ripping open wounds really what we want to do?

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Dec 23, 2018 21:40:40   #
jcboy3
 
Wrangler wrote:
I never saw any babies or villages get naped and I never heard of that happening.


Napalm was tactical. Bombing of North Vietnam was strategic, with massive civilian casualties.

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Dec 23, 2018 23:29:09   #
cwp3420
 
jcboy3 wrote:
No. You prove it is true. Because you claim everyone else is wrong.


Spoken like a true coward.

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Dec 23, 2018 23:32:25   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
How many psychiatrists have quit on you? I've never claimed to be multilingual. (If you need me to I can post a definition for you) I'd like to be, but most Americans aren't, especially if they were born here.


So you belittle Melania Trump’s accent, because she is not a native English speaker, while you, being the genius on here, only know one foreign word, and that is “lasagna”. What a petty little sniveling shit you are. LOL, little boy.

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Dec 23, 2018 23:33:36   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjbq6GT-PM&index=12&list=RDPqu6mXOXmx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1fVMKgzR6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTyqoV1d2Ys

This ones not about Vietnam, but it fits on this forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwwNu-pt0U&list=RDPqu6mXOXmx4&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_AdEgRpxS8&list=RDPqu6mXOXmx4&index=8


There are plenty of wounds to rip open if that's what we want to do. Most of us were kids. Is ripping open wounds really what we want to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjbq6GT-PM&in... (show quote)


If that’s what you really mean, genius, why did you bring it up?

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Dec 23, 2018 23:42:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wrangler wrote:
I never saw any babies or villages get naped and I never heard of that happening.


Of course you didn't

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/truscott-apology-dead_soldiers-mm.html

https://www.pbs.org/video/origins-napalm/

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Dec 23, 2018 23:44:38   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
cwp3420 wrote:
If that’s what you really mean, genius, why did you bring it up?


I didn't start it. It needed answered. I offered a truce. I didn't offer unilateral disarmament.

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Dec 24, 2018 01:14:21   #
Angmo
 
jcboy3 wrote:
No. You prove it is true. Because you claim everyone else is wrong.


Head over to a library. History is important for you. Learn before you take the lying leftist way. Go read.

Anyone can explain it to you but no one can understand it for you.

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Dec 24, 2018 05:47:25   #
jcboy3
 
Angmo wrote:
Head over to a library. History is important for you. Learn before you take the lying leftist way. Go read.

Anyone can explain it to you but no one can understand it for you.


You obviously need to take your own advice. But I can't do anything about your lack of respect for history.

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Dec 24, 2018 09:23:24   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Christians love to bomb innocent civilians. Since WW II, the US has bombed:

China, Korea, Guatemala, Indonesia, Cuba, Belgian Congo, Dominican Republic, Peru, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Lebanon, Grenada, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Iran, Panama, Iraq, Kuwait, Somalia, Bosnia, Sudan, Afghanistan, Serbia.

Many of these more than one period.

US Motto: Do unto others.

Bomb Iran, by Vince Vance & The Valiants:

"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb Iran
Let's take a stand
Bomb Iran
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

Went to a mosque, gonna throw some rocks
Tell the Ayatollah, "Gonna put you in a box!"
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb Iran
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

Ol' Uncle Sam's gettin' pretty hot
Time to turn Iran into a parking lot
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb Iran
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

Call the volunteers; call the bombadiers;
Call the financiers; better get their *** in gear
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb Iran
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
(Let's nuke 'em! Whoo!)


Call on our allies to cut off their supplies
Get our hands untied, and bring em' back alive
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb Iran
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb Iran
Let's take a stand
Bomb Iran
Our people you been stealin'
Now it's time for "keelin", bomb Iran
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"
Christians love to bomb innocent civilians. Since... (show quote)


sounds like you would be happier somewhere else.....adios MF

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Dec 24, 2018 09:41:42   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
When I came back I was not harassed nor spit upon. I hung up my uniform which I kept for reservel meetings and went to college. I spoke at "peace rallies" and said you all are wrong. But, was not spat upon!

The Myth of the Spitting Antiwar Protester
By Jerry Lembcke
Oct. 13, 2017

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People in Seattle welcoming troops returning from Vietnam.
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Doug Wilson/Corbis, via Getty Images


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People in Seattle welcoming troops returning from Vietnam.CreditCreditDoug Wilson/Corbis, via Getty Images
“So where do these stories come from?”

The reporter was asking about accounts that soldiers returning from Vietnam had been spat on by antiwar activists. I had told her the stories were not true. I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.

A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.

I was glad the reporter was interested in the origin of these stories, because beginning even before the war ended, news organizations had too often simply repeated them — even though some stories had the hallmarks of tall tales all over them. Even The Times once quoted, matter-of-factly, a veteran telling of how he arrived stateside from Vietnam on a stretcher with a bullet in his leg, only to be splattered with rotten vegetables and spat on by antiwar college kids.

Whoppers like these go unchallenged by reporters and scholars perhaps because of their memoirist first-person quality, stories told by the men who say it happened to them. I collect the stories, I told the reporter, and have a spreadsheet with about 220 first-person “I was spat on” accounts.

But you don’t believe the stories, right? she asked. Acknowledging that I could not prove the negative — that they were not true — I went on to say there is no corroboration or documentary evidence, such as newspaper reports from the time, that they are true. Many of the stories have implausible details, like returning soldiers deplaning at San Francisco Airport, where they were met by groups of spitting hippies. In fact, return flights landed at military air bases like Travis, from which protesters would have been barred. Others include claims that military authorities told them on returning flights to change into civilian clothes upon arrival lest they be attacked by protesters. Trash cans at the Los Angeles airport were piled high with abandoned uniforms, according to one eyewitness, a sight that would surely have been documented by news photographers — if it had existed.


Wrangler wrote:
That is a cute song written by someone who saw none of it. When I came back to the world, I was spat on and called a baby killer. For the record, I never killed one baby but I hugged and fed a lot. Fifty years later, I still cry for the kids who had their parents killed by the VC and ARVN.

That was real life and not just a protest song.

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