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Dec 23, 2018 11:40:02   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
LOL, well I gave away the sx50 a couple of months ago and sold my Canon gear. Keeping the M4/3's and their lenses 'til I die. PM me your name and I will include you in my will


Linda I am set for photographic equipment but please keep me in mind if you happen to have any firearms, knives or fly rods/reels.

Have a great day and a very Merry Christmas. I always appreciate your comments. If I still travelled the I-90 corridor through the Ellensburg area I would hope to buy you lunch or a cup of coffee and maybe do some photography together. Unfortunately not in the immediate future but life can change.

Dennis

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Dec 23, 2018 11:41:34   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Maybe absurd but I don't recall anybody on UHH telling the group that an expensive camera such as the 5D4 was necessary to take good photos. On the contrary, it seems that every time someone asks a question about moving up to a more expensive camera, there are a number of members who ask what is their present camera not doing that a more expensive camera will do. Most seem to offer advice to dissuade the OP from buying a more expensive camera.

I have expensive cameras, a Leica M10 and M6, Nikon D800 and a few lenses for each. My photos are probably not much better than I have taken when I had a Nikon D70. But it is my money and I enjoy some of the finer things in life when I can afford them. That extends to firearms, knives and optics. I consider it money well spent if I am getting enjoyment using those items.

Dennis
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Dec 23, 2018 11:54:55   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
You can take award winning images with your iPhone. Gear is meaningless, it is the eye behind the viewfinder that makes the difference.


Can I hear an AMEN!?

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Dec 23, 2018 11:55:54   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I own lots of the top cameras and lenses totaling to about $100k. I'm no better or worse than anyone else but I do have the equipment and experience to get the job done. As a paid professional, I don't get to wine that I don't have the proper equipment because if that's the case, and it happens, I don't take the job. A good example is that I do not yet own a Drone, but I sure am considering it as I keep getting more and more requests for jobs that would require one. As another example, when shooting football under the lights, either High School of Collage, you need a body such as a D5 and a lens such as a 400/2.8. That combined with my 51+ years of experience (started when I was 13) is what gets me paid. I won't apologize for what I do have, but I will happily share what I've learned and/or what I think. Happy Hollidays and Happy Shooting to ALL!

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Dec 23, 2018 11:58:54   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
nadelewitz wrote:
Is it not possible that "good" photography, whatever that means, can still be done without having a fortune to spend?

$500.00 tripods, $160.00 L-brackets, editing software that you have to pay for, the "top" Nikon cameras, Canon "L" lenses, $150.00 filters....on and on.....

Seems like ANY question asked about what to use/buy quickly turns into endless suggestions to spend tons of money, and that you are foolish if you don't. Those who have it think that everyone does.

Give us ordinary non-professionals a break, please.
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Iā€™m a semi retired former pro and have never bought a $500 tripod, $160 L bracket or $150 filter.

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Dec 23, 2018 12:20:04   #
DJ Mills Loc: Idaho
 
Jimmy T wrote:
I guess that I am one of the folks that you are talking about. Photography is my passion. I have a Canon 6D, 5DIV, and two Canon "L" zoom lenses. A lot of $$$ to be sure, however, the expense has been spread over the past twelve years, that were planned for and "saved-up" for. Another thing that I might add is that I am the "Poster Boy" for not being able to buy a good shot by using high-end equipment, grin. Until recently, I was pretty sure that I wouldn't spend any more on Canon gear if they hadn't come out with their new EOS R mirror-less line. I'm saving for that now, grin. Remember to always use an adjustable camera (it makes you feel like you are in charge, grin) and learn from your mistakes. What other hobby lets you shoot people and cut off their heads??? Now please, don't get me started on golf . . . Merry Christmas and a Healthy, Happy New Year to You and Yours, Remembering the Reason for the Season, JimmyT Sends.

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Well said.
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Dec 23, 2018 12:36:49   #
pila
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I agree with rplain that respondents often ask for the OP's budget. But here we have, yet again, someone who has posted a rant instead of a thoughtful question or observation that encourages positive conversation and learning/teaching photography. To quote someone yesterday in a similar-tone topic:

for what possible value or benefit other than to outdo other curmudgeons in a 'who's who of grumpy' competition.

As for cost of gear, on UHH I spent three years supporting the value of bridge cameras for those who were looking for lighter weight and less expensive. Some of my "proof" via the Canon SX50 ($375 at the time):
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Proof is in the pudding. Linda has spoken with visual evidence.

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Dec 23, 2018 12:42:25   #
ChrisRL
 
Agreed with all here.

Even since I started shooting sports and BIF, more as a sometimes-paying hobby than anything else, I've often wondered about the advisability of going with the 10fps cameras and the snap-focus more-light gathering glass, unless I was shooting for a lot more money than I'm getting now, or at night to those funky mercury vapor or other intermittent light sources, etc., when only one of those cameras will do.

But even then, something like a D810 and a faster 80-200 is probably all I'd need. Somehow 10fps feels to me like I could just get out my 4.6k video camera and shoot 60fps, and just pick a frame out of that footage.

In another place and time, that wouldn't be considered cricket, not at all.

If I were shooting full-time for Sports Illustrated, though...

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Dec 23, 2018 12:51:55   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
You can take award winning images with your iPhone. Gear is meaningless, it is the eye behind the viewfinder that makes the difference.


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Dec 23, 2018 12:54:15   #
ChrisRL
 
Err... the end of the rear focusing rail?

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Dec 23, 2018 13:07:01   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I agree with rplain that respondents often ask for the OP's budget. But here we have, yet again, someone who has posted a rant instead of a thoughtful question or observation that encourages positive conversation and learning/teaching photography. To quote someone yesterday in a similar-tone topic:

for what possible value or benefit other than to outdo other curmudgeons in a 'who's who of grumpy' competition.

As for cost of gear, on UHH I spent three years supporting the value of bridge cameras for those who were looking for lighter weight and less expensive. Some of my "proof" via the Canon SX50 ($375 at the time):
I agree with rplain that respondents often ask for... (show quote)


Wow, beautiful work! Many of us could not have done better with top of the line camera and lenses.

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Dec 23, 2018 13:11:33   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Not my intent to hijack this thread. I must say that I look up to both Gene and Linda for their civility, and always providing great technical and practical photographic information. Thank you both for ALL that you do!


Agreed. Kudos to both.

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Dec 23, 2018 13:26:20   #
camshot Loc: Peterborough ontario Canada
 
Right om Linda, and yes that Canon Sx50 is amazing for the cost. I use a Canon 5Dmk2, but often take the Sx50 out and it always amazes me what it can do, and with a very long reach when needed.

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Dec 23, 2018 13:32:16   #
DU WANT 1 2 Loc: West Virginia
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
You can take award winning images with your iPhone. Gear is meaningless, it is the eye behind the viewfinder that makes the difference.


This the very thing I proved to myself (again). I found some Kodacolor film in my fridge (no comments on frequency of fridge cleaning {;o) and broke out my Minolta camera. I sent the film to The Darkroom, and the images I got were awful! Out of focus, heads lopped off, crooked horizon, shooting into the sun for fall pictures, on and on. All due to Pilot error! I needed a delete button.. Marilyn

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Dec 23, 2018 13:42:52   #
axiesdad Loc: Monticello, Indiana
 
quote=BlueMorel]I am not a pro, never will be one, and won't progress to the level of some of the better photographers here. I don't have a limitless budget, either, so my total outlay so far is about $1200 for camera and equipment over 5 years and not planning on adding much more. But I'm happy with what I got and the contest I'm running is me against myself - how can I get the best out of what I have. I look other people's fine work and it gives me benchmarks to aim for, but it's sort of like watching an excellent performer - I get my enjoyment from their output but also e njoy my own efforts, and I am not pitch perfect by any means.

That's why I like UHH - it is full of people at all skill levels and buying power, pros and amateurs, bush league like me and major league, people who have big bucks and people on social security budgets. There's a place here for all of us.[/quote]

Well said, Blue Morel. I have about the same investment as you and don't feel that my pictures would be greatly improved if I just threw more money into equipment. My camera is a Nikon D3100 and so long as it's capabilities exceed my own I really don't need biggerbetterfaster

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