Just sayin'
Dec 22, 2018 14:20:57 #
nadelewitz
Loc: Ithaca NY
Is it not possible that "good" photography, whatever that means, can still be done without having a fortune to spend?
$500.00 tripods, $160.00 L-brackets, editing software that you have to pay for, the "top" Nikon cameras, Canon "L" lenses, $150.00 filters....on and on.....
Seems like ANY question asked about what to use/buy quickly turns into endless suggestions to spend tons of money, and that you are foolish if you don't. Those who have it think that everyone does.
Give us ordinary non-professionals a break, please.
$500.00 tripods, $160.00 L-brackets, editing software that you have to pay for, the "top" Nikon cameras, Canon "L" lenses, $150.00 filters....on and on.....
Seems like ANY question asked about what to use/buy quickly turns into endless suggestions to spend tons of money, and that you are foolish if you don't. Those who have it think that everyone does.
Give us ordinary non-professionals a break, please.
Dec 22, 2018 14:25:41 #
nadelewitz wrote:
Not true in most cases - when the question is posed, we usually ask what the budget is and give recommendations accordingly. If they ask what the best is, we assume sky is the limit. And though I pay for the photoshop suite, many people suggest free or low cost alternatives.Is it not possible that "good" photograp... (show quote)
Dec 22, 2018 14:40:15 #
I agree with rplain that respondents often ask for the OP's budget. But here we have, yet again, someone who has posted a rant instead of a thoughtful question or observation that encourages positive conversation and learning/teaching photography. To quote someone yesterday in a similar-tone topic:
for what possible value or benefit other than to outdo other curmudgeons in a 'who's who of grumpy' competition.
As for cost of gear, on UHH I spent three years supporting the value of bridge cameras for those who were looking for lighter weight and less expensive. Some of my "proof" via the Canon SX50 ($375 at the time):
for what possible value or benefit other than to outdo other curmudgeons in a 'who's who of grumpy' competition.
As for cost of gear, on UHH I spent three years supporting the value of bridge cameras for those who were looking for lighter weight and less expensive. Some of my "proof" via the Canon SX50 ($375 at the time):
Dec 22, 2018 14:40:23 #
I am not a pro, never will be one, and won't progress to the level of some of the better photographers here. I don't have a limitless budget, either, so my total outlay so far is about $1200 for camera and equipment over 5 years and not planning on adding much more. But I'm happy with what I got and the contest I'm running is me against myself - how can I get the best out of what I have. I look other people's fine work and it gives me benchmarks to aim for, but it's sort of like watching an excellent performer - I get my enjoyment from their output but also enjoy my own efforts, and I am not pitch perfect by any means.
That's why I like UHH - it is full of people at all skill levels and buying power, pros and amateurs, bush league like me and major league, people who have big bucks and people on social security budgets. There's a place here for all of us.
That's why I like UHH - it is full of people at all skill levels and buying power, pros and amateurs, bush league like me and major league, people who have big bucks and people on social security budgets. There's a place here for all of us.
Dec 22, 2018 14:51:03 #
From my reading here and on various Facebook groups devoted to photography, there is enormous pride of ownership in expensive lenses and full frame cameras. How many really need a Canon 5dMk4 and $15,000 worth of lenses along with tripods filters, etc.?
It's all quite absurd.
It's all quite absurd.
Dec 22, 2018 15:08:30 #
nadelewitz
Loc: Ithaca NY
mgoldfield wrote:
From my reading here and on various Facebook groups devoted to photography, there is enormous pride of ownership in expensive lenses and full frame cameras. How many really need a Canon 5dMk4 and $15,000 worth of lenses along with tripods filters, etc.?
It's all quite absurd.
It's all quite absurd.
Yeah, quite absurd is right. I'm so sorry that Linda from Maine thought I was ranting. Well, not really.
Dec 22, 2018 15:11:44 #
nadelewitz wrote:
You will have many more supporting your "observation" - no worries.Yeah, quite absurd is right. I'm so sorry that Linda from Maine thought I was ranting. Well, not really.
Dec 22, 2018 15:20:53 #
nadelewitz wrote:
Is it not possible that "good" photograp... (show quote)
You can take award winning images with your iPhone. Gear is meaningless, it is the eye behind the viewfinder that makes the difference.
Dec 22, 2018 15:22:55 #
What kind of car should I by? That's nice and open ended and would get varying responses.
A lot of factors that would include necessity, desire, performance, versatility, available options and budget.
A lot of factors that would include necessity, desire, performance, versatility, available options and budget.
Dec 22, 2018 15:48:56 #
Good photography can be accomplished with any camera. It’s the nut behind the lens that composes the shot, not the camera. The camera is merely a recording device.
Dec 22, 2018 16:19:34 #
Alan Wolslegel
Loc: Thurston County, Washington
nadelewitz wrote:
Is it not possible that "good" photograp... (show quote)
I'm one of the newer members but have posted several times. Whenever I've been asked what equipment (very seldom) I have always felt it was in an attempt to understand the camera and lens combination being used in order to offer suggestions for improvement (which I appreciate), not to belittle my equipment. I've used a D80 with a couple of Sigma lenses for a lot of years now and like them a lot even though they are inexpensive by today's offerings. I also have some other equipment that is fun to use but I certainly do not feel I've ever been asked what I'm using so that someone can attempt to make me feel like my equipment is inferior, in fact there are a lot of folks in this group that enjoy and still use a variety of older gear. Using the old gear is part of the fun for me. I think people ask mostly because they are genuinely interested in the art, the gear and how to help. There have been a few snarky comments but they seem to get put in their place...as they should.....my $0.02
awol
Dec 22, 2018 16:37:07 #
BlueMorel wrote:
I am not a pro, never will be one, and won't progr... (show quote)
OK, Linda, another benchmark for me - great photos, and anytime you want to ditch your gear, just send it my way!
Dec 22, 2018 16:57:08 #
BlueMorel wrote:
LOL, well I gave away the sx50 a couple of months ago and sold my Canon gear. Keeping the M4/3's and their lenses 'til I die. PM me your name and I will include you in my will OK, Linda, another benchmark for me - great photos, and anytime you want to ditch your gear, just send it my way!
Dec 22, 2018 18:53:54 #
alby
Loc: very eastern pa.
I love my P510.. old yes. top of the line? no, it can't even see the "line".... but it make ME happy.
Dec 22, 2018 19:31:43 #
nadelewitz wrote:
Is it not possible that "good" photograp... (show quote)
It is possible to do good photography cheap. That applies to everyone. For the pros it's the matter of return on investment. If you buy a better camera how much more business can you get? How much less effort do you need to do your job so you can go home with your family and relax? How much more money can you expect to get paid?
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