Insect Ventral View
Dec 16, 2018 15:29:01 #
Mark suggested that ventral view of this insect would show its primitive legs and other appendages better so here's my attempt to do so. It's very small so I had a difficult time getting it into position. The yellowish background is the dab of putty that I put on to the staging platform and stick the pin into. The putty gives me something that I can mush on one way or another to get the best view of the subject through the lens.
Dec 16, 2018 16:31:38 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
Mark suggested that ventral view of this insect would show its primitive legs and other appendages better so here's my attempt to do so. It's very small so I had a difficult time getting it into position. The yellowish background is the dab of putty that I put on to the staging platform and stick the pin into. The putty gives me something that I can mush on one way or another to get the best view of the subject through the lens.
What is it specifically? Looks more like a Crustacean (10 legs) than an Insect (6 walking legs). Hard to tell what is going on here with out seeing more of the critter. Does is have wings (Insect). Can you show us the dorsal side?
Dec 16, 2018 17:10:07 #
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-568916-1.html#9685884
It's a "Jumping Bristletail" and this is a carryover of the one that I posted yesterday which you can see from this link.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-568395-1.html
This is a link to a macro photo posted by tinusbum which is an excellently detailed full-length capture of one that he found and posted a few days ago.
It's a "Jumping Bristletail" and this is a carryover of the one that I posted yesterday which you can see from this link.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-568395-1.html
This is a link to a macro photo posted by tinusbum which is an excellently detailed full-length capture of one that he found and posted a few days ago.
Dec 16, 2018 17:41:32 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
Mark suggested that ventral view of this insect would show its primitive legs and other appendages better so here's my attempt to do so. It's very small so I had a difficult time getting it into position. The yellowish background is the dab of putty that I put on to the staging platform and stick the pin into. The putty gives me something that I can mush on one way or another to get the best view of the subject through the lens.
To reenforce Mark's information, the mint doctor has weighed in.😀
Bill
Dec 16, 2018 18:10:05 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-568916-1.html#9685884
It's a "Jumping Bristletail" and this is a carryover of the one that I posted yesterday which you can see from this link.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-568395-1.html
This is a link to a macro photo posted by tinusbum which is an excellently detailed full-length capture of one that he found and posted a few days ago.
It's a "Jumping Bristletail" and this is a carryover of the one that I posted yesterday which you can see from this link.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-568395-1.html
This is a link to a macro photo posted by tinusbum which is an excellently detailed full-length capture of one that he found and posted a few days ago.
OK, thanks for the information. My instincts were correct in my confusion; I noticed the "mix" of hexipoda and decipoda characteristics. Even though this was off topic, I feel pretty good I got that close from a close-up ventral view and I'm not an Entomologist, or even technically a Botanist - yes, Lamiaceae is the Mint Family.
Dec 16, 2018 21:30:30 #
lamiaceae wrote:
OK, thanks for the information. My instincts were correct in my confusion; I noticed the "mix" of hexipoda and decipoda characteristics. Even though this was off topic, I feel pretty good I got that close from a close-up ventral view and I'm not an Entomologist, or even technically a Botanist - yes, Lamiaceae is the Mint Family.
Wasn't off topic to me. Not my post, but thanks for weighing in.
Bill
Dec 17, 2018 05:14:21 #
newtoyou wrote:
Wasn't off topic to me. Not my post, but thanks for weighing in.
Bill
Bill
OK, cool.
Dec 17, 2018 16:00:39 #
Thanks for trying this! I don't think i have seen this view for about 30 years and I am very glad to see it now. The paired bases of the coxae - the basal leg segments - of legs on the abdomen are in plain view here, along with their styli appendages.
To really cook peoples' noodles about insects, it was shown a few years ago that insects are genetically related to a particular obscure group of Crustaceans known as the Remipedia. The way this is, it seems that the insects are descended from these sorts of Crustaceans, and at once this explains the presence of vestigial limbs on the abdomen of the most primitive insects (the jumping bristletails), and the extra styli appendages that they and some other insects have. These are features that are typical of Crustaceans. That jumping bristletails look like little shrimp is probably a coincidence, however.
Thanks, sippyjug! You are doing awesome work here.
To really cook peoples' noodles about insects, it was shown a few years ago that insects are genetically related to a particular obscure group of Crustaceans known as the Remipedia. The way this is, it seems that the insects are descended from these sorts of Crustaceans, and at once this explains the presence of vestigial limbs on the abdomen of the most primitive insects (the jumping bristletails), and the extra styli appendages that they and some other insects have. These are features that are typical of Crustaceans. That jumping bristletails look like little shrimp is probably a coincidence, however.
Thanks, sippyjug! You are doing awesome work here.
Dec 17, 2018 16:45:44 #
Mark, I am ever so grateful for the compliment and it is truly something that I enjoy doing. For me the two tie themselves together, the searching and the photographing. I'm blessed that a single insect can fill my entire day.
This was a 'little bugger' for sure and I had already pinned him for views in other positions. What's a bit mind-bending is the image I look at while staging the shot is on my computer screen tethered to the camera and everything is the mirror image so if it needs to move to the left, I have to move it to the right. Only up and down are true. The slightest scooch moves inches across the screen. I can see why many use micrometers and precision bases and rails on their subject platforms to control the subjects position. But, hey...I'm retired and I have time on my hands now.
This was a 'little bugger' for sure and I had already pinned him for views in other positions. What's a bit mind-bending is the image I look at while staging the shot is on my computer screen tethered to the camera and everything is the mirror image so if it needs to move to the left, I have to move it to the right. Only up and down are true. The slightest scooch moves inches across the screen. I can see why many use micrometers and precision bases and rails on their subject platforms to control the subjects position. But, hey...I'm retired and I have time on my hands now.
Dec 17, 2018 20:10:12 #
Dec 17, 2018 20:30:40 #
He (or she) is not as pretty as the one that you found going about its way. It takes a lot of skill and patience to shoot something alive so small.
Mine came back in a tube from the woods for a photo study. I've learned a lot about them from the folks here and I now have a deeper appreciation for their lineage and their survival over millions of years.
Mine came back in a tube from the woods for a photo study. I've learned a lot about them from the folks here and I now have a deeper appreciation for their lineage and their survival over millions of years.
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