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Nov 22, 2018 22:25:34   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
I don't believe I did. I know I didn't mean to. Show me please. I know for a fact that I was a Christian and a rather liberal Democrat at the same time. I've known some rather liberal Friends (Quakers). I don't know enough about their beliefs to have any idea as to cause and effect. I think Trump should be evidence that you don't have to be religious to be a Republican. I believe you are as well.


I know you did not mean it that way but I wanted to point out how easy it is for others to interpret your words differently and come to a wrong conclusion. Go back and read your post that I replied to looking for the word GOP.

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Nov 22, 2018 22:31:02   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
yhtomit wrote:
Remember we are talking about a mammals life cycle.

It is not a continuum when it creates a new individual. Genetically yes, but it is a unique individual unto itself.
Resuscitation orders are the choice of the individual.
Gene pools change with every birth. They die when they stop reproducing.


It is a new individual, but it is made of already living parts. The parts are not persons and neither is the blastocyst.

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Nov 22, 2018 22:32:27   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
I know you did not mean it that way but I wanted to point out how easy it is for others to interpret your words differently and come to a wrong conclusion. Go back and read your post that I replied to looking for the word GOP.


If I knew how to do a search here I would have.

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Nov 22, 2018 22:33:50   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
yhtomit wrote:
Then stop being so offensive if you can’t explain your own actions.


I can explain. It is out of an attempt to not offend that I haven't.

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Nov 23, 2018 00:09:21   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
thom w wrote:
It is a new individual, but it is made of already living parts. The parts are not persons and neither is the blastocyst.


You speak of a stage after conception. Was life started at conception? Has the mammals life started at conception?
So can you answer the question “ when does the life cycle of a mammal begin and end?”?

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Nov 23, 2018 00:46:31   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
yhtomit wrote:
You speak of a stage after conception. Was life started at conception? Has the mammals life started at conception?
So can you answer the question “ when does the life cycle of a mammal begin and end?”?


What part of continuum don't you understand? Life is changing form, it isn't being created. If you have some theory about a soul, you are welcome to it and I won't argue about it. Otherwise I really don't understand where you are coming from.

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Nov 23, 2018 00:55:33   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
thom w wrote:
What part of continuum don't you understand? Life is changing form, it isn't being created. If you have some theory about a soul, you are welcome to it and I won't argue about it. Otherwise I really don't understand where you are coming from.


"Continuum" is one of those words from that special category of 'shades-of-grey' type words that right wingers can't process. From a winger's perspective, you just tossed a grenade into the discussion.

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Nov 23, 2018 00:58:19   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Keenan wrote:
"Continuum" is one of those words from that special category of 'shades-of-grey' type words that right wingers can't process. From a winger's perspective, you just tossed a grenade into the discussion.


Glad I could help.

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Nov 23, 2018 01:01:00   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
thom w wrote:
Glad I could help.


LOL

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Nov 23, 2018 08:33:47   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
From what I can find on line, Tahoe residents are asked to rake their pine needles. They are asked to not leave the ground bare, but not leave more than an inch on bare ground and none anywhere besides bare ground. It's a matter of balancing fire risk against erosion. I'm sorry if the word balance confused you.


I was there. I know exactly what it meant. The fact is as a result of the regs the fire was. Offer than it would have been. Hence the change. Play with words all you want but truth is truth

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Nov 23, 2018 09:00:10   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
You like to blame the two party system. I'm not arguing with you right now, but only because I haven't heard the reasoning behind your claim. You really haven't made your case. I can't agree or disagree with your reasoning without having any idea what it is. Most liberals disagree with conservatives on most things but they don't see them as evil or dangerous. Trumpets, who for the most part aren't even conservative, are different. They are dangerous. They have elected a dangerous and corrupt person who has no idea how our government is supposed to work, and continue to support him only because liberals and people with any humanity are against him. I would never vote for someone just because it upset people I don't like. Then there are persons like yourself who let the perfect be the enemy of the best option we have at the time. Interesting those who support Trump because "he has been born again", when Hillary is somewhat devout (not like Carter, but still) and attends church regularly, and always has, and I would guess Trump has been to church 3 times in his life and will say he is anything you want him to, if he sees an advantage to himself for doing so. A multi party system without a major change to how we run our elections would be a disaster.
You like to blame the two party system. I'm not ar... (show quote)


There's plenty out there on why the two party system is failing us and our founders also warned against having two parties.

This isn't about Trump, Clinton, Obama or anyone else. It's about two parties that do little but snipe at and obstruct each other. Party members often do the same thing and so does the media. Listen to yourself. You want to settle for the lesser of two evils. I would ask why. Like it or not the democrats had a hand in electing Trump because their candidate was so bad.

I remember when Ross Perot was running. He could have gotten more traction if the media didn't often shut him out. We are being manipulated.

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Nov 23, 2018 09:46:21   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
amyinsparta wrote:
Has anyone stopped to think about the number of people added to the population if abortion were prohibited and how many of them would not be able to support a life? Or how many women , along with the pregnancy, would die from homemade attempts to abort, or suicides, or deaths of newborns? How easy it is for this fool to put the onus on the woman. But how typical it is in fundamentalist circles. Look up the stats on abortions to see just how many there are worldwide, and then maybe realize it takes two to tango. 99.999%of females dont get pregnant unless there is a penis involved. And that penis is as much responsible for creation as the vagina. As far as I have been taught, there was only ONE immaculate conception.

I'm sick and tired of old white men trying to dictate to women how to live their lives, especially those old white fundamentalists and the Catholic Church. How easy it is for both to put the blame for all the ills of the world onto the backs of women and minorities, while they themselves can't keep their own sexual wants in check.

Oh yeah, have a great Thanksgiving and give to the poor in spirit and the poor in finances.
Has anyone stopped to think about the number of pe... (show quote)



Spoken like an ageist misandrist!

I’m sick and tired of people, especially limited-thinking women, whining about “old white men” in a world and time that is a meritocracy!

Your rant on reproductive organs is imbecilic.....don’t bang, don’t get pregnant, yes?

[by the way....using your logic we shouldn’t develop advancements in diseases, etc as they only allow for more people to live who cannot “support a life” or, for that matter, allow such advancements to the poor since they cannot “support a life”]

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Nov 23, 2018 10:07:39   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
thom w wrote:
What part of continuum don't you understand? Life is changing form, it isn't being created. If you have some theory about a soul, you are welcome to it and I won't argue about it. Otherwise I really don't understand where you are coming from.


Thanks for playing.
The question I asked still stands unanswered.
Next.

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Nov 23, 2018 10:11:48   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Spoken like an ageist misandrist!

I’m sick and tired of people, especially limited-thinking women, whining about “old white men” in a world and time that is a meritocracy!

Your rant on reproductive organs is imbecilic.....don’t bang, don’t get pregnant, yes?

[by the way....using your logic we shouldn’t develop advancements in diseases, etc as they only allow for more people to live who cannot “support a life” or, for that matter, allow such advancements to the poor since they cannot “support a life”]
Spoken like an ageist misandrist! br br I’m sick... (show quote)


I believe you made her, "rant" quite more believable than if you hadn't responded.
Good work.

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Nov 24, 2018 11:43:31   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Frank T wrote:
I believe you made her, "rant" quite more believable than if you hadn't responded.
Good work.



I believe a functional moron would believe what you wrote.

Good work.

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