I love this response. (go piss up a rope) I'll be laughing about it all day long.

Photo i.d. required for voting seems like common sense to me. Whoever said there is no voting fraud is probably living under a rock.

I understand about poor. I've worked home health and I've seen a lot. Many of these people do get to the grocery store every once in a while. Many go to church. They do get out. If requiring a photo i.d. is ever mandatory, I bet the government will bend over backwards helping everybody get one.
Some people never leave the house. Everyone has a different situation. Hopefully, those who never leave the house have relatives or friends or church family that will help them obtain a photo i.d.. If not, then they probably wouldn't be voting anyway.

You are just one of those self made people who gives a rats ass about other people who may want a break once in awhile. People who are going to school who are on a very tight budget, the elderly who are going to have to give up some of their prescriptions to pay for a photo I.D. so they can vote. You may not know this but it is happening all over this country. No you just don't give a rats ass because you are probably the well to do who doesn't care about the less fortunate. These people who I'm describing are the real true Americans oif this country and deserve the right to vote too.

I am NOT a self made person, I am living on a very tight budget of less than $17,000 a year, and raising 4 children. I have never had money in my life. You need to keep your accusations and opinions to yourself if you cannot be civil to other people. It is people like you who makes me proud to be a conservative. How dare you suggest that I am not a true American? I am probably more a a Patriot than you are! I happen to believe in the sovereinty and security of the country that I fought for. You are one of the bleeding heart dumb@$$es who would allow our country to be tread on because an illegals non-existant rights are more important than the rights of the American citizen. Every time people like you allow an illegal to have rights they do not have, it makes a mockery out of our Constitution and makes the rights of the American people less sacred.

As far as people not being able to afford a picture ID, I am in full support of a government funded ID system to assit these people in getting an ID, or a free ID system. I am not in support of anyone who is here illegally having any rights, or the ability to get an ID. They are here in violation of Federal law, and as such should be prosected!

A News21 analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent.

In an exhaustive public records search, News21 reporters sent thousands of requests to elections officers in all 50 states, asking for every case of fraudulent activity, including registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and intimidation.


Analysis of the resulting comprehensive News21 election fraud database turned up 10 cases of voter impersonation. With 146 million registered voters in the United States during that time, those 10 cases represent one out of about every 15 million prospective voters.

In Minnesota, there have been 10 total cases of reported fraud and no cases of voter impersonation reported since 2000.

“Voter fraud at the polls is an insignificant aspect of American elections,” said elections expert David Schultz, professor of public policy at Hamline University School of Business in St. Paul.


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David Schultz
“There is absolutely no evidence that [voter impersonation fraud] has affected the outcome of any election in the United States, at least any recent election in the United States,” Schultz said.

What we found
The News21 analysis of its election fraud database shows:

In-person voter-impersonation fraud is rare. The database shows 207 cases of other types of fraud for every case of voter impersonation.
 “The fraud that matters is the fraud that is organized. That's why voter impersonation is practically non-existent because it is difficult to do and it is difficult to pull people into conspiracies to do it,” said Lorraine Minnite, professor of public policy and administration at Rutgers University.

There is more fraud in absentee ballots and voter registration than any other categories. The analysis shows 491 cases of absentee ballot fraud and 400 cases of registration fraud. A required photo ID at the polls would not have prevented these cases.
 “The one issue I think is potentially important, though more or less ignored, is the overuse of absentee balloting, which provides far more opportunity for fraud and intimidation than on-site voter fraud,” said Daniel Lowenstein, a UCLA School of Law professor.

Of reported election-fraud allegations in which a resolution could be determined, 46 percent resulted in acquittals, dropped charges or decisions not to bring charges.
Minnite says prosecutions are rare. “You have to be able to show that people knew what they were doing and they knew it was wrong and they did it anyway,” she said. “It may be in the end they [prosecutors] can't really show that the people who have cast technically illegal ballots did it on purpose.”

Felons or noncitizens sometimes register to vote or cast votes because they are confused about their eligibility. The database shows 74 cases of felons voting and 56 cases of noncitizens voting.
Voters make a lot of mistakes, from accidentally voting twice to voting in the wrong precinct.
Election officials make a lot mistakes, from clerical errors — giving voters ballots when they’ve already voted — to election workers confused about voters’ eligibility requirements.
“I don't think there is a mature democracy that has as bad of an elections system as we do,” said Richard Hasen, a professor of political science and election law expert at the University of California, Irvine. “We have thousands of electoral jurisdictions, we have non-professionals running our elections, we have partisans running our elections, we have lack of uniformity.”

Voter-impersonation fraud has attracted intense attention in recent years as conservatives and Republicans argue that strict voter ID laws are needed to prevent widespread fraud.

I agree that those who are here illegally should not get an I.D to vote. I'm not against voter I.D. either but to push it upon the voters at such a close time before an election is in my opinion playing with dishonesty in an election. These people should have at least two full years to get them. Why is is all of a sudden aproblem when there is not documented cases of fraud. I guess 4 people in P.A. committed voter fraud out of the millions voting, come on lets get real. We can't suppress the vote because of some big time politician needs some votes to win an election.

You are just one of those self made people who gives a rats ass about other people who may want a break once in awhile. People who are going to school who are on a very tight budget, the elderly who are going to have to give up some of their prescriptions to pay for a photo I.D. so they can vote. You may not know this but it is happening all over this country. No you just don't give a rats ass because you are probably the well to do who doesn't care about the less fortunate. These people who I'm describing are the real true Americans oif this country and deserve the right to vote too.

Also a lot of polling places are in walking distance not so much the DMV and if your older you might not have ID because you don't drive anymore then there are the elderly that where born during the racial minority divide where birth certificates wernt issued. Really doesn't matter the reason. It violates amendment 15 voters rights