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Oct 24, 2018 12:07:56   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
dsmeltz wrote:
The C: drive looks very overburdened.


Hi dsmeltz. Yes it is. When the computer was first set up the C: drive was intended for the operating system only. Most of my programs are installed on a different drive, however, some programs don't give you the option to choose which drive they will be installed to, such as P/s. Hence the reason for C: being overloaded.

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Oct 24, 2018 12:14:25   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
The C: drive looks very overburdened.




Looks like you need to move all but your program files and OS to the other drives to free up space, or you could also replace the boot SSD drive with a 1TB or 2TB SSD to allow future growth.

If you can, add another SSD to use at scratch disk, or perhaps this would be a good use for the 250 GB SSD you currently use as a boot drive.

IMHO, the swap disk or cache space should not be on the drive containing the program files. I'm not sure where I read that, but it is what I do now.

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Oct 24, 2018 13:27:37   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Jolly Roger wrote:
I have had questions asked about my system and drive space. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the workings of a computer. It's a bit of a black art to me.
The machine was built three years ago and was told that it was 'over spec' for my needs.
I have scanned the receipt for the parts installed (which don't make any sense to me). Hopefully they will to you.
Also I have checked the four drives in the P C. giving the details of available space. In addition I have a couple of External Drives hooked up but I have disregarded these for this exercise.

Thanks for all the helpful advice so far.
Roger
I have had questions asked about my system and dri... (show quote)


Most of the machine seems fine - a little overboard on the video card. But to build a system with only a 256 gb system drive - well that is a mistake. I generally recommend a 1 TB SSD for a C: drive. The system is not "over spec" by any means - you clearly were told this by someone who isn't familiar with Photoshop system requirements - not the minimum requirements, but the recommended requirements.

I think if you ditch the 256 GB drive and replace it with a 1 TB or even a 512 GB one, you'll be much happier.

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Oct 24, 2018 13:56:48   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Gene51 wrote:
Most of the machine seems fine - a little overboard on the video card. But to build a system with only a 256 gb system drive - well that is a mistake. I generally recommend a 1 TB SSD for a C: drive. The system is not "over spec" by any means - you clearly were told this by someone who isn't familiar with Photoshop system requirements - not the minimum requirements, but the recommended requirements.

I think if you ditch the 256 GB drive and replace it with a 1 TB or even a 512 GB one, you'll be much happier.
Most of the machine seems fine - a little overboar... (show quote)


You can get a 512 SSD for well under $100

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Oct 25, 2018 07:07:47   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
Thanks guys for the suggestions. I have a 1TB SSD on order, so hopefully in a few days the problem will be sorted.
Roger

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Oct 25, 2018 10:29:45   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Very good move to get the SSD, I hope you use this as your main C:\ drive and clone the OS to it.
I suggest this as because this is what I have always done.
I also suggest you take this to a 'tech' shop and have them clone the OS ' operating system, being Windows' to the new SSD.
I can't recall if your existing drive is partitioned, I think it may have been, they can copy these over too.
Also, I really encourage you to upgrade to Windows10. It is much much better and runs more efficiently.
Good luck and please let me know how it goes.
Bruce.

Jolly Roger wrote:
Thanks guys for the suggestions. I have a 1TB SSD on order, so hopefully in a few days the problem will be sorted.
Roger

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Oct 25, 2018 11:27:16   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
riderxlx wrote:
Very good move to get the SSD, I hope you use this as your main C:\ drive and clone the OS to it.
I suggest this as because this is what I have always done.
I also suggest you take this to a 'tech' shop and have them clone the OS ' operating system, being Windows' to the new SSD.
I can't recall if your existing drive is partitioned, I think it may have been, they can copy these over too.
Also, I really encourage you to upgrade to Windows10. It is much much better and runs more efficiently.
Good luck and please let me know how it goes.
Bruce.
Very good move to get the SSD, I hope you use this... (show quote)


Hi Bruce
Thanks for the tips. Will post, once everything is up and running as it should be.

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Oct 25, 2018 12:29:58   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Thanks for the reply Roger.
I think you will be just fine, you have a good solid base hardware system so the higher storage disk will really help.

Here is what I did the past year or so. I bought two refurbished computers from MicroCenter in Dallas Texas, I live in the area so I just drove there and picked them up. No monitors, just the CPU box.
I paid less than 340. bucks for each, bought a few months apart, not at the same time.
They are DELL's, i5's, one has 8 gig ram, the other 16. Windows 10 on both.
One of the first things I did was buy a 500 gig SSD for each one.
I cloned the OS to the SSD and oh man, what big difference in start time and overall performance.
I use the old spinning disk hard drives as back ups a few times a year. I also have recovery disks on USB sticks.
I actually had to use one last year when the original disk crapped out before I could in stall the SSD !
Mine work fine.
I read A LOT of opinions on this site about high dollar computers and monitors etc. etc. etc.
To me there is a lot of BS with this too and serious over kill.
Today's computers if tuned up right or cleaned up, will do ANYTHING you need to do without overly excessive RAM and gizmo's.
I am not saying this is not needed by heavy duty Pro and Enthusiasts doing serious processes that many of us 'regular' folks do not do, So I am not bashing anything.
I just hate to see people get sucked into overkill expenses.
You will be fine once the SSD is installed and your system is stabilized.
Peace to you bro,
Bruce in Texas.










Jolly Roger wrote:
Hi Bruce
Thanks for the tips. Will post, once everything is up and running as it should be.

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Oct 25, 2018 12:53:36   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Something else to keep in mind. LR actually (correct me if I don't phrase this exactly right) works on previews of your files it put in the catalog when you imported the file. It does not need access to the file while you are working on it. It does not actually need the file until you go to export it to a new file (like a JPEG) So having the actual files on the same drive or on the SSD is not necessary.

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Oct 26, 2018 12:04:05   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
riderxlx wrote:
Thanks for the reply Roger.
I think you will be just fine, you have a good solid base hardware system so the higher storage disk will really help.

Here is what I did the past year or so. I bought two refurbished computers from MicroCenter in Dallas Texas, I live in the area so I just drove there and picked them up. No monitors, just the CPU box.
I paid less than 340. bucks for each, bought a few months apart, not at the same time.
They are DELL's, i5's, one has 8 gig ram, the other 16. Windows 10 on both.
One of the first things I did was buy a 500 gig SSD for each one.
I cloned the OS to the SSD and oh man, what big difference in start time and overall performance.
I use the old spinning disk hard drives as back ups a few times a year. I also have recovery disks on USB sticks.
I actually had to use one last year when the original disk crapped out before I could in stall the SSD !
Mine work fine.
I read A LOT of opinions on this site about high dollar computers and monitors etc. etc. etc.
To me there is a lot of BS with this too and serious over kill.
Today's computers if tuned up right or cleaned up, will do ANYTHING you need to do without overly excessive RAM and gizmo's.
I am not saying this is not needed by heavy duty Pro and Enthusiasts doing serious processes that many of us 'regular' folks do not do, So I am not bashing anything.
I just hate to see people get sucked into overkill expenses.
You will be fine once the SSD is installed and your system is stabilized.
Peace to you bro,
Bruce in Texas.
Thanks for the reply Roger. br I think you will be... (show quote)

Thanks again Bruce for the comments. Once the new drive has been cloned and becomes the 1TB C: drive I will be installing Windows 10 onto it (currently Win 7). The 1TB SSD was £189. Not sure if Windows 10 is still free or not. Once the new drive is installed I will check for a freeby.
Watch this space.

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Oct 26, 2018 12:06:56   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Something else to keep in mind. LR actually (correct me if I don't phrase this exactly right) works on previews of your files it put in the catalog when you imported the file. It does not need access to the file while you are working on it. It does not actually need the file until you go to export it to a new file (like a JPEG) So having the actual files on the same drive or on the SSD is not necessary.


Hi dsmeltz.
I already keep all my Lightroom files on a separate drive, so hopefully no issues with that.
Roger

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Oct 26, 2018 12:14:49   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Hi Roger;
I just realized you live in the UK. The drive price is much less here and Windows 10 is no longer a free upgrade. It was only a free upgrade for a couple of months. It can be purchased from Microsoft directly as a download or from a store in a DVD, which is what I prefer. I am glad to hear you are moving in the right direction, once you get it up to speed you will very happy with it.
Be careful of 'freebees' or cheap and discounted Windows 10 options. PLEASE avoid these and only get it directly from Microsoft or reputable store where you will get a licensed version and full support from Microsoft.
Let me know if I can help Ok,
bruce



Jolly Roger wrote:
Thanks again Bruce for the comments. Once the new drive has been cloned and becomes the 1TB C: drive I will be installing Windows 10 onto it (currently Win 7). The 1TB SSD was £189. Not sure if Windows 10 is still free or not. Once the new drive is installed I will check for a freeby.
Watch this space.

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Oct 26, 2018 12:20:07   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Jolly Roger wrote:
I have had questions asked about my system and drive space. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the workings of a computer. It's a bit of a black art to me.
The machine was built three years ago and was told that it was 'over spec' for my needs.
I have scanned the receipt for the parts installed (which don't make any sense to me). Hopefully they will to you.
Also I have checked the four drives in the P C. giving the details of available space. In addition I have a couple of External Drives hooked up but I have disregarded these for this exercise.

Thanks for all the helpful advice so far.
Roger
I have had questions asked about my system and dri... (show quote)


You should have about 25-50gb free on your c drive (as it is). I'd get a 1tb drive and have your c drive cloned to it. Then keep the free space at about 25%.

You should upgrade to windos 10 also.

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Oct 27, 2018 11:05:27   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
riderxlx wrote:
Hi Roger;
I just realized you live in the UK. The drive price is much less here and Windows 10 is no longer a free upgrade. It was only a free upgrade for a couple of months. It can be purchased from Microsoft directly as a download or from a store in a DVD, which is what I prefer. I am glad to hear you are moving in the right direction, once you get it up to speed you will very happy with it.
Be careful of 'freebees' or cheap and discounted Windows 10 options. PLEASE avoid these and only get it directly from Microsoft or reputable store where you will get a licensed version and full support from Microsoft.
Let me know if I can help Ok,
bruce
Hi Roger; br I just realized you live in the UK. T... (show quote)


Thanks Bruce.
I've never understood why items purchased here are so much more expensive. If say you buy some camera gear from Japan at US$1,000. The same item here will be approx. £1,000. Once the exchange rate is adjusted it works out considerably more over here.
I'm aware of the scam Windows 10 at "bargain" prices. I will be steering well clear of those. I am told that Microsoft don't advertise the fact but there are ways to get it free even now. Once the new drive is installed I will be looking at the options. Failing that I will purchase from Microsoft.
Roger

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Oct 27, 2018 11:09:18   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
frankraney wrote:
You should have about 25-50gb free on your c drive (as it is). I'd get a 1tb drive and have your c drive cloned to it. Then keep the free space at about 25%.

You should upgrade to windos 10 also.


Hi Frank
I have ordered a new 1TB SSD, should be arriving later today.
If you can read my last post (posted after your post) I explain about Windows 10.
Thanks
Roger

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