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Sep 26, 2018 19:10:59   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
traderjohn wrote:
Absolutely right!! My daughter was married last year. My wife when interviewing photographers was concerned about a history and she inserted a dress code in the contract. If they had a problem they could have walked. There was no problem. The photographer is a professional, she and her two assistants dressed accordingly. I also had lofty levels of expectations. On our table there were to be 2 bottles of Macallan 12 year old Single Malt Scotch.


What? You couldn't go to the 18 year?

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Sep 26, 2018 19:43:09   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Peterff wrote:
What? You couldn't go to the 18 year?


I didn't want to sound too snotty.

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Sep 26, 2018 19:45:42   #
pic375 Loc: Rosehill TX.
 
if a paid photographer shows up at a formal or semiformal event that I am paying for dressed as described above he or she will be asked to change into something appropriate or asked to leave.... there are to many other photographers ready to go at a moments notice if one is needed, me included.

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Sep 26, 2018 20:34:36   #
Angmo
 
traderjohn wrote:
I think I'll join you.


Cheers.

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Sep 26, 2018 20:54:43   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
So. Does Jesus and God really care how you dress? Do you think the bride and groom actually care how their attendees are dressed? People change, times change, opinions change. What was is no more, what will be no one knows. Stop pining for the past and enjoy the present. And let people wear what they wish.

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Sep 27, 2018 05:07:49   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
pic375 wrote:
if a paid photographer shows up at a formal or semiformal event that I am paying for dressed as described above he or she will be asked to change into something appropriate or asked to leave.... there are to many other photographers ready to go at a moments notice if one is needed, me included.


Given a choice of a dapper dressed wedding photographer that takes crappy pics and Crappy dressed photographer that produces award winning images, for me, it’s still about the photography.
Nobody will remember who the photographer was or how he was dressed but at the 50th wedding anniverity the only thing that will matter is the wedding pics themselves!!!
SS

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Sep 27, 2018 06:15:49   #
Shutterbug57
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Given a choice of a dapper dressed wedding photographer that takes crappy pics and Crappy dressed photographer that produces award winning images, for me, it’s still about the photography.
Nobody will remember who the photographer was or how he was dressed but at the 50th wedding anniverity the only thing that will matter is the wedding pics themselves!!!
SS


I wouldn’t bet on the pics mattering at that point either. I’ve been married 36 years. Neither my wife nor I have the faintest clue where our wedding pics are save for the one that is framed in our room. There is an album, a nice album with quality shots, somewhere in our house, but where is anybody’s guess. I know we showed a few friends the pics when we got them, but they have not seen the light of day for at least 35 years.

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Sep 27, 2018 07:13:19   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
I wouldn’t bet on the pics mattering at that point either. I’ve been married 36 years. Neither my wife nor I have the faintest clue where our wedding pics are save for the one that is framed in our room. There is an album, a nice album with quality shots, somewhere in our house, but where is anybody’s guess. I know we showed a few friends the pics when we got them, but they have not seen the light of day for at least 35 years.


That's too bad. We have been married for 50 years. My wife can put her hand on our wedding album and related pictures in a heartbeat. In fact this Spring after dinner with our children and grandchildren she did take them out and we had another look in the history book.

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Sep 27, 2018 07:59:36   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
I wouldn’t bet on the pics mattering at that point either. I’ve been married 36 years. Neither my wife nor I have the faintest clue where our wedding pics are save for the one that is framed in our room. There is an album, a nice album with quality shots, somewhere in our house, but where is anybody’s guess. I know we showed a few friends the pics when we got them, but they have not seen the light of day for at least 35 years.


Maybe that says more about the nature of your relationship and the things that you both value than it does about the photographs.

At least for myself, I know exactly where the photographs are. I can’t remember what our photog looked like, but she did excellent work, and fitted into the environment seamlessly and unobtrusively. A consummate professional.

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Sep 27, 2018 09:55:55   #
sploppert Loc: Rochester, NY
 
I have shot many weddings and have worked for some of the biggest studios in my area for over 40 years. If you were ever dressed in anything less than a suit and tie you would be blackballed and never work for any studio again. I have shot weddings in NYC where a tux was the expected attire and in Arizona in 110 heat. Always wore a suite and tie. The same holds true when I shot weddings in Europe. If you command a professional price then you dress like a professional.

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Sep 27, 2018 15:20:50   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
When this subject arises- and it does come up every now and again, many post with the underlying attitude of "don't tell me how to dress"! Except for my employees and crew, I would never assume to tell anyone what to do- I can only relate my own opinions based on my experience and hope that they are helpful to some.

Of course it is true that a photographer's worth as an artist and reputation shoud be primarily based on his or her product, not on their manner of dress or personal appearance. In wedding photography, however, the photographer's appearance and manner can directly affect the quality of their work product. You are making formal portraits and group photographs. You are moving among the families and guests and the way you are perceived will be reflected in you images. If folks are displeased or negatively distracted by your manner or or mode of dress it can show in their expressions and negatively affect the degree of cooperation you will receive. True enough, some people won't care one way or another, however, most folks take notice of theses elements and react accordingly- way take a chance?

Of course again, there are no blanket rules, traditions or etiquette that are practiced in every geographic location, community, cultural or religious, or socioeconomic group. A true professional will make it their business to always find out what is appropriate dress for the events and special occasions they are covering. There are theme weddings and formalites and informalities that can range for beach attire to "black tie"- it just a matter of knowing where are you are going not only as per your manner of dress but most importantly, your photography plan and approach to the work at hand and you clients expectations in all of theses matters. Times have changed but somethings change on some things don't! Astute, intelligent, thoughtful and savvy photograhers always know what's acceptable and what's not- within their client base.

As for the horror stories of sloppy, fumbling, distracting and rude wedding photograhers", all I can say is that I suspect theses folks are not true PROFESSIONALS, or seriously uninformed, inexperienced, rookies how have an awful lot to learn.

Inappropriately dressed dads, grooms, guests- even brides? In over 50 years in the biz, I have seen very little- practically none of that. I find that even folks of modest means at very simple and casual weddings try their best to look and act at their best.

In my own business, I have not aggressively advertised for wedding photography for the past 12 years and we still have a full calendar based on referral business from our old and ongoing clients and our trade contacts. Some folks HOPEFULLY, are impressed with the quality of the work! Others keep calling us because the simply like the way we work- how we treat folks! I usually work with a crew- consisting of me and at least two assistants. The nicest compliments we get, over the years, is the reaction when we show many hundreds of original images and folks say "how did you get all those shots, except for the formal session we did not even realize y'all were there"...kinda thing! We blend and never offend!

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Sep 27, 2018 17:49:31   #
coolhoosier Loc: Dover, NH, USA
 

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Sep 27, 2018 17:59:59   #
Shutterbug57
 
Peterff wrote:
Maybe that says more about the nature of your relationship and the things that you both value than it does about the photographs.

At least for myself, I know exactly where the photographs are. I can’t remember what our photog looked like, but she did excellent work, and fitted into the environment seamlessly and unobtrusively. A consummate professional.


As I stated originally, the photos are fine. We just prefer to make new memories rather than pore over photos of old ones.

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Sep 27, 2018 19:16:59   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
As I stated originally, the photos are fine. We just prefer to make new memories rather than pore over photos of old ones.


That's fine, no disrespect intended, we all have different approaches to life and family. My mother-in-law, who is first and foremost a friend and one of my favorite party animals, and soon to be 91 has a strong interest in family history. So do I. Having photographs from her early life - she was quite a babe, and from those of her older siblings is fascinating. Her 96 year old sister gave me her husband's cameras and offered me a whole bunch of slides taken when they were touring the USA in their red Jaguar XKE. That's history I wasn't going to turn down, since they would have been trashed otherwise.

Back to the topic, a photog should fit in unobtrusively to the event, dress high or dress low, but match the environment, and don't step on the bride's silk dress train as my uncle-in-law did!

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Sep 27, 2018 22:25:23   #
Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca
 
IMO, it’s a total lack of respect, show at one of my event and I’ll turn you back with out hesitation, contract terminated here and now.

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