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Sep 27, 2018 10:17:57   #
TRAVLR38 Loc: CENTRAL PA
 
Thanks for your kind reply. As I replied to him, I will be trying this out. Glad to hear your opinion of this lens. It is not cheap, but if it can be put to several different uses, it will be worthwhile.

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Sep 27, 2018 10:23:35   #
grandpaw
 
Very nice image!!!

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Sep 27, 2018 10:28:14   #
TRAVLR38 Loc: CENTRAL PA
 
Thanks for your kind reply. I already have the 14-150 and the 70-300 and like them very much. Took both on a safari last spring and they performed admirably. But neither is as fast as I need. And I have just got the E M1ii and am learning how to get the best from it.

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Sep 27, 2018 10:46:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
You might find a better solution here.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-ab&ei=7-ysW_TVIqqQ_QaHr4zYAQ&q=creating+a+blurry+background+in+post+processing&oq=creating+a+blurry+background+in+post+processing&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3428.7115..7565...0.0..0.171.1940.11j8......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i22i30j33i22i29i30j33i160j33i21.4qrXJJV89TA

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Sep 27, 2018 11:14:04   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
LarryFB wrote:
Unfortunately, that is a common issue with a camera with a smaller than full frame sensor. Crop sensor cameras will always give you a greater depth of field than a full frame.


Unfortunate in this case. Very fortunate in others, LOL

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Sep 27, 2018 11:24:06   #
MartyfromWNY Loc: Rochester, NY
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
This is with the 75-300 mm lens at 300 mm, if that focal range might be of interest to you. With your sports venues, the relatively short distance from subject to background could definitely be an issue - assuming you're on the sidelines and not shooting from the goal ends

M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 75-300mm f/4.8-6.7 II Lens at f/8


Nice pic, Linda. A former active birder shouldn't have to ask, but I will. Woodcock?

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Sep 27, 2018 11:26:24   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
MartyfromWNY wrote:
Nice pic, Linda. A former active birder shouldn't have to ask, but I will. Woodcock?
Good guess if I were still on the east coast But in central/eastern Washington State, this is a relative: the Wilson's Snipe (which is a far cooler name, no?). Thank you!

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Sep 27, 2018 11:35:18   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
TRAVLR38 wrote:
Thanks for your kind reply. As I replied to him, I will be trying this out. Glad to hear your opinion of this lens. It is not cheap, but if it can be put to several different uses, it will be worthwhile.


If you’ll pick the “quote reply” selection under the response when you respond, we’ll know who you’re responding to. Thanks!

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Sep 27, 2018 11:39:45   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
MFT cameras such as the Olympus have smaller sensors (i.e. "crop" sensors) and have two image consequences: 1) smaller field of view for a given focal length lens as compared to a larger sensor & 2) greater depth of field at a given aperture than the same focal length lens on a larger sensor camera. Therefore, you will always have greater depth of field with an MFT camera unless you can counteract by opening to a larger image. Good news is that because the smaller MFT lenses remain sharper clearer to the edge of the image. However for outdoor or other bright light conditions your limited for exposure reasons so you might consider adding neutral density filters to enable use of larger apertures to give better bokeh. Good luck with that.

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Sep 27, 2018 11:57:35   #
kmbro2 Loc: Wildwood FL. 34785
 
Is this with a full frame, or the same type camera as well?

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Sep 27, 2018 12:07:34   #
TRAVLR38 Loc: CENTRAL PA
 
TriX wrote:
If you’ll pick the “quote reply” selection under the response when you respond, we’ll know who you’re responding to. Thanks!

Sorry! this is my first time at replying.

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Sep 27, 2018 12:17:18   #
MartyfromWNY Loc: Rochester, NY
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Good guess if I were still on the east coast But in central/eastern Washington State, this is a relative: the Wilson's Snipe (which is a far cooler name, no?). Thank you!


Thanks. I wasn't comfortable with my Woodcock guess because it has buffy underparts, but I can see where Wilson's makes sense.

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Sep 27, 2018 12:17:56   #
Unclehoss
 
Practice, practice, practice. Set up some sort of object(fence posts, pop cans, bowling pins) at different distances to the camera with each of them in view. Take copius notes for camera to object distance, shutter speed, F-stop, focal length on the zoom lens, etc. Without the objects moving you will have time to change shutter speeds, f-stops, zooms and take a WHOLE BUNCH of shots. Study them to figure out what look you are looking for. Remember, faster shutter speed means less movement blur, larger aperature (lower f-stop number) means shallower depth of field(DoF), physically the closer you are to the subject, the shallower the DoF, the larger the sensor the shallower the DoF for an equivalent f-stop. Since you don't want to change formats, you can work with the other variables to achieve your goal. I used to drive my wife nuts with the number of pictures I took of pop bottles lined up. There are numerous online charts to tell you numbers of depth of field for different sensors, f-stops, but a picture is worth a thousand words, when you see it in practice you will be able to anticipate what it will look like for the real thing.

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Sep 27, 2018 12:18:40   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
kmbro2 wrote:
Is this with a full frame, or the same type camera as well?


Who are you asking? But to answer your question, every photo in this thread are from M4/3 cameras

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Sep 27, 2018 15:33:53   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
TRAVLR38 wrote:
Thanks for your kind reply. These are great pix. Congrats. But what I want is tack sharp pictures of the athletes with a blurred background. I am not sure whether soccer players move fast enough to blur the background, but panning is something to try. And not wasted effort--practice in panning would be a good thing. But not likely useful for volleyball; the players don't move that fast or in such a constant direction.


I am assuming you may be referencing my shots. Those pictures were taken with mostly the 14-54 f2.8/3.5 and the 50-200 f2.8/3.5 on my E-M1 mrII. All the shots were handheld. This was my first attempt at sport action photography even though I have been shooting since 1975. I believe the blur action side shots were approximately 1/15 second pan and could be made tack sharp if I had chosen a much faster shutter speed (blur was what I was trying for). I would have to open up my file to see what speed the straight-on shots were. I had the focus set for tracking and all the focus sites on (full screen focus). I started my shooting without the EE-1 viewsight. My shooting percentages were 50% to 60%. It is much hard than I thought to properly track the action using the normal viewfinder. Once I switched to the EE-1 viewsight, I feel my shooting percentages were around 80% once I got use to shooting with EE-1.

My suggestions for you are to give the 40-150 f2.8 another chance, set the camera to aperture mode and f2.8, focusing to tracking and all sensors active, and rent or buy the EE-1 viewsight. This is likely to produce the pictures that I think you are describing to us. And if the all focusing sites doesn't seem to track the way you want, try setting it to a smaller focusing size. Please get back to us with results and pictures. That way I might get more ideas on how to shoot my second attempt at sports action shots. Also, although I had to learn very quickly how to use my EE-1, it will take a little getting use to not using the normal viewfinder and how to pan steady handheld.Try tucking your elbows into your chest and sides and then just rotate your body. That seemed to do the best for me.

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