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Sep 14, 2018 01:26:01   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Bipod wrote:
Sharpen algorithms trade gradiation for "edge effects" (as we used to call it).
One can always tell where they've been applied.

Gradiation is really important -- its one of the measures of image quality.
You don't want your lanscape to end up looking like somebody drew
over it with a sharp pencil. That's phony sharpness.

Like a plaster cast on a leg, sharpen has its uses---but probably only as a last
resort. We shouldn't go out planning to break a leg or to take unsharp
images!

A sharp image contains more information than a fuzzy image.
Missing information about a scene cannot be created out of nothing.
If you use shapen, it will look shaper--but at a price.

Sharpen is not reversible: there is no "put it back the way it was".
That's because sharpen algrorithms lose information. Areas of
gradually changing tone are being traded for a sharp edge. All that
beautiful gradiation is sacrificed.

Unfortunately, image processing software packages like Photo Shop
don't bother to tell the user which digital filters are information-lossy.
(They know *exactly* what I'm talking about.)

In general, there is no "free lunch" in photography: if you screw up a
shot, there is no way to magically fix it (some color correction and
minor lightening and darkening excepted). To improve one thing,
you have to sacrifice something else. Come to think of it, that's a
lot like life....

Relying on sharpen is one of the *worst* habits in digital photography.
Sharpen algorithms trade gradiation for "edge... (show quote)


Unfortunately, the shortcomings of digital cameras require some measure of sharpening - certainly with RAWs. This fact is recognised by the manufacturers, who go someway to improve the sharpness with JPGs. The use to which we put our pictures should decide just how much sharpening is required - for example, a digital pic to be used in a published illustration will require more sharpening than a framed print.

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Sep 14, 2018 11:31:18   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I've been Photoshopping for 20 years. Sharpening is an art. I am aware of obvious edge effects and I don't let them become visible. Smooth areas can be left smooth by various methods. Photoshoppers always sharpen on a separate layer and then vary its strength. I feel confident my photos are Better after sharpening.
Bipod wrote:
Sharpen algorithms trade gradiation for "edge effects" (as we used to call it).
One can always tell where they've been applied.

Gradiation is really important -- its one of the measures of image quality.
You don't want your lanscape to end up looking like somebody drew
over it with a sharp pencil. That's phony sharpness.

Like a plaster cast on a leg, sharpen has its uses---but probably only as a last
resort. We shouldn't go out planning to break a leg or to take unsharp
images!

A sharp image contains more information than a fuzzy image.
Missing information about a scene cannot be created out of nothing.
If you use shapen, it will look shaper--but at a price.

Sharpen is not reversible: there is no "put it back the way it was".
That's because sharpen algrorithms lose information. Areas of
gradually changing tone are being traded for a sharp edge. All that
beautiful gradiation is sacrificed.

Unfortunately, image processing software packages like Photo Shop
don't bother to tell the user which digital filters are information-lossy.
(They know *exactly* what I'm talking about.)

In general, there is no "free lunch" in photography: if you screw up a
shot, there is no way to magically fix it (some color correction and
minor lightening and darkening excepted). To improve one thing,
you have to sacrifice something else. Come to think of it, that's a
lot like life....

Relying on sharpen is one of the *worst* habits in digital photography.
Sharpen algorithms trade gradiation for "edge... (show quote)



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Sep 14, 2018 11:50:39   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I've been Photoshopping for 20 years. Sharpening is an art. I am aware of obvious edge effects and I don't let them become visible. Smooth areas can be left smooth by various methods. Photoshoppers always sharpen on a separate layer and then vary its strength. I feel confident my photos are Better after sharpening.


I think your excellent picture says QED

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Sep 14, 2018 15:37:27   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Thanks. This one shot two days ago. Purple Fringed Gentians, not the best composition but over-sharpened? You do have to know where to stop. Where just enough adds impact but too much is a turn-off. Subtlety is a key.
Delderby wrote:
I think your excellent picture says QED



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Sep 14, 2018 18:13:54   #
drmjp429 Loc: CT
 
Stunning photo.Nice going !!

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Sep 17, 2018 06:09:17   #
mikeg492 Loc: WIlmington, NC
 
I went with sigma art lenses 18-35 &50-100 1.8 tack sharp on my d500.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:45:48   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
mikeg492 wrote:
I went with sigma art lenses 18-35 &50-100 1.8 tack sharp on my d500.



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