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Sep 6, 2018 20:58:08   #
mymike Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Russ1700 wrote:
A couple of years ago I did exactly what you are thinking, upgraded from D7100 to D610. Differences in quality, very little, however with lenses substantial. I like the low light capability of the D610. Downsize is the extra weight of the whole outfit, body and lens. If you go and get the Nikon holy trinity of lens, then add a bag to carry all that gear, it get very heavy.


And expensive!

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Sep 6, 2018 21:03:25   #
Russ1700
 
yes and expensive. Is the extra weight and cost worth it, I don't think so.

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Sep 6, 2018 21:09:24   #
Charlie'smom
 
Russ1700 wrote:
A couple of years ago I did exactly what you are thinking, upgraded from D7100 to D610. Differences in quality, very little, however with lenses substantial. I like the low light capability of the D610. Downsize is the extra weight of the whole outfit, body and lens. If you go and get the Nikon holy trinity of lens, then add a bag to carry all that gear, it get very heavy.


Thank you for your comments.

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Sep 7, 2018 07:00:23   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
I do have a sturdy tripod, as well as a remote wired and non-wired shutter release. They’ll both get lots of use.

Thanks.



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Sep 7, 2018 08:44:12   #
jjanovy Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
I went to the D610 (from D3300, which I kept, and a D3400 which I bought as a backup), mainly because I could afford it, the kit included a telephoto, and I simply wanted to have a full frame digital. I've been very happy with the D610, although I don't use it exclusively. I tend to take LOTS of images, download them to external hard drives, back them up on external hard drives, and mess with them using Photoshop. So additional features such as WiFi connectivity are not really important to me. I have a Sigma 150-600 telephoto and a Sigma 2X converter and those both work well with all my Nikon cameras. The D610 has a port for a wire remote (as does the D3300 but not the D3400), and that wire remote can be a really nice item. The D610 also has a USB port that accepts the same wire as my Canons (don't know the technical name of that shape), and two SD card slots. So I'm very happy with it. I've not used the video on the D610, but the videos on those other Nikons are excellent, at least for my use. Hope this helps.

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Sep 7, 2018 09:03:06   #
Charlie'smom
 
jjanovy wrote:
I went to the D610 (from D3300, which I kept, and a D3400 which I bought as a backup), mainly because I could afford it, the kit included a telephoto, and I simply wanted to have a full frame digital. I've been very happy with the D610, although I don't use it exclusively. I tend to take LOTS of images, download them to external hard drives, back them up on external hard drives, and mess with them using Photoshop. So additional features such as WiFi connectivity are not really important to me. I have a Sigma 150-600 telephoto and a Sigma 2X converter and those both work well with all my Nikon cameras. The D610 has a port for a wire remote (as does the D3300 but not the D3400), and that wire remote can be a really nice item. The D610 also has a USB port that accepts the same wire as my Canons (don't know the technical name of that shape), and two SD card slots. So I'm very happy with it. I've not used the video on the D610, but the videos on those other Nikons are excellent, at least for my use. Hope this helps.
I went to the D610 (from D3300, which I kept, and ... (show quote)


Thank you for the information. That’s some range on the 150-600 with the teleconverter.

I noticed you’re in Lincoln, NE. I grew up in Omaha and lived in Lincoln from 1986-1998. Lincoln is a great place to live!

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Sep 7, 2018 10:51:24   #
robertjbar
 
I am responding to your post to give my two cents worth. I read the original post because I, too am upgrading from a D5500 to a D750. But in reading the thread, I realized that there are a lot of misconceptions as to picture quality between the two formats. A FF camera will not necessarily result in better picture quality. You need to understand the differences between the two sensor sizes and determine what these differences mean to the type of shooting you do.

First, an APSC format will give excellent results, and for many of us (myself included), this format could be the only camera we will ever need. I have been using a D5500 for two years and I have gotten some great shots. My not so great shots have to do with operator error and learning the art of composition (Nothing to do with the camera). I have some of my better shots hanging on my wall, which is my goal on every shot I take. So far, all of my wall worthy shots are printed 8X10, but I know they would look just as good if they were printed larger. My point here is that these shots would be no better if I used a FF camera.

So why would I want to move to a FF and what are the differences? For starters, one could print in larger sizes with FF. This doesn't really pertain to me (More so for a professional), but it would allow one to crop and still get a decent size print made. The most significant difference is that the larger sensor of FF and larger pixel size results in gathering more light in low light situations, and thereby resulting in less noise when using higher iso's. In my case, I want to do night sky shooting, so I will benefit from a larger sensor. Now, I don't need a FF sensor to get great night sky shots, as evidenced by a recent post of a night sky shot using a D5100. But, me being a technical geek, I think I can benefit in the long run, as I like to do mainly landscapes, especially in low light. Which brings me to another reason for moving to FF, which is that you can get a wider angle of view. I have a 20mm f/1.8 that I use for landscapes and night sky. On the D5500 this an equivalent focal length of 30mm. I have been in situations where I could have used the extra 10 mm to get the composition I wanted. Again, I don't really need a FF; I just need to use my imagination and creativity to still get a good shot.

Another thing I noticed in reading through this thread is that someone is using the DXO mark scores to judge picture quality. Big mistake! You really should fully understand what the scores mean before you make judgments on buying a camera. I won't elaborate because I don't want to steal this thread, so I will start a new one on this topic.

To summarize, I would like to say that picture quality is a relative term, and one should understand what factors affect picture quality, and how they will affect you based on the type of shooting you do. Sorry to be so long winded, but I just had to say it.

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Sep 7, 2018 10:56:16   #
Charlie'smom
 
robertjbar wrote:
I am responding to your post to give my two cents worth. I read the original post because I, too am upgrading from a D5500 to a D750. But in reading the thread, I realized that there are a lot of misconceptions as to picture quality between the two formats. A FF camera will not necessarily result in better picture quality. You need to understand the differences between the two sensor sizes and determine what these differences mean to the type of shooting you do.

First, an APSC format will give excellent results, and for many of us (myself included), this format could be the only camera we will ever need. I have been using a D5500 for two years and I have gotten some great shots. My not so great shots have to do with operator error and learning the art of composition (Nothing to do with the camera). I have some of my better shots hanging on my wall, which is my goal on every shot I take. So far, all of my wall worthy shots are printed 8X10, but I know they would look just as good if they were printed larger. My point here is that these shots would be no better if I used a FF camera.

So why would I want to move to a FF and what are the differences? For starters, one could print in larger sizes with FF. This doesn't really pertain to me (More so for a professional), but it would allow one to crop and still get a decent size print made. The most significant difference is that the larger sensor of FF and larger pixel size results in gathering more light in low light situations, and thereby resulting in less noise when using higher iso's. In my case, I want to do night sky shooting, so I will benefit from a larger sensor. Now, I don't need a FF sensor to get great night sky shots, as evidenced by a recent post of a night sky shot using a D5100. But, me being a technical geek, I think I can benefit in the long run, as I like to do mainly landscapes, especially in low light. Which brings me to another reason for moving to FF, which is that you can get a wider angle of view. I have a 20mm f/1.8 that I use for landscapes and night sky. On the D5500 this an equivalent focal length of 30mm. I have been in situations where I could have used the extra 10 mm to get the composition I wanted. Again, I don't really need a FF; I just need to use my imagination and creativity to still get a good shot.

Another thing I noticed in reading through this thread is that someone is using the DXO mark scores to judge picture quality. Big mistake! You really should fully understand what the scores mean before you make judgments on buying a camera. I won't elaborate because I don't want to steal this thread, so I will start a new one on this topic.

To summarize, I would like to say that picture quality is a relative term, and one should understand what factors affect picture quality, and how they will affect you based on the type of shooting you do. Sorry to be so long winded, but I just had to say it.
I am responding to your post to give my two cents ... (show quote)


Thank you. I really appreciate your more in-depth analysis of why you want to move up to a ff.

I had a D5500 and thought it was a terrific camera.

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Sep 7, 2018 11:47:59   #
BebuLamar
 
If buying new I think the D750 is a good camera. As for reason to move up to FF I wouldn't know as I never had an APS-C camera. When I switch from 35mm film to digital I bought the FF because I can use all my lenses the same way I used them on the film camera. There is no crop factor involved.

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Sep 7, 2018 11:49:03   #
Charlie'smom
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If buying new I think the D750 is a good camera. As for reason to move up to FF I wouldn't know as I never had an APS-C camera. When I switch from 35mm film to digital I bought the FF because I can use all my lenses the same way I used them on the film camera. There is no crop factor involved.


Thank you.

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Sep 7, 2018 13:59:49   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
I’d like to know if anyone has gone from a D7200 (or 7100/7500) to a full frame, specifically either the D600/610 or the D750. If so, please tell me why you made the change and if you have any regrets. Any information in helping me decide is appreciated. From what I’ve found in researching the 600s and the 750, besides there being more bells and whistles on the 750, image quality between them doesn’t appear to be much of a difference.

I’m aware of the lens issue and do have some lenses that are fx/dx compatible. Please don’t recommend the 810/850 or above.

Thank you for any help or information you can share.
I’d like to know if anyone has gone from a D7200 (... (show quote)


Regarding the unfortunately common GAS syndrome, is there anything your current camera doesn't
do that you feel you absolutely need? If the answer is "No," enjoy your camera and save your money.
The overwhelming majority of us DO NOT NEED full frame. >Alan

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Sep 7, 2018 18:30:57   #
Charlie'smom
 
I found a similar conversation on another site, and found this link. This pretty much tells it like it is on any camera comparisons. It’s pretty fun to play with:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=nikon_d7200&attr13_1=canon_eos80d&attr13_2=nikon_d500&attr13_3=nikon_d810&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=800&attr16_1=800&attr16_2=800&attr16_3=800&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.6610367251097162&y=-0.968550459708148

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Sep 8, 2018 09:29:20   #
inbigd
 
I went from d3200 to d610 a couple of years ago. Great camera with one exception - live view. Exposure changes are not reflected on the live view monitor immediately. I have found no work around for this. I think higher end Nikons and all Canons and mirrorless do have exposure preview.

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