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Sep 5, 2018 17:39:56   #
Charlie'smom
 
I’d like to know if anyone has gone from a D7200 (or 7100/7500) to a full frame, specifically either the D600/610 or the D750. If so, please tell me why you made the change and if you have any regrets. Any information in helping me decide is appreciated. From what I’ve found in researching the 600s and the 750, besides there being more bells and whistles on the 750, image quality between them doesn’t appear to be much of a difference.

I’m aware of the lens issue and do have some lenses that are fx/dx compatible. Please don’t recommend the 810/850 or above.

Thank you for any help or information you can share.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:20:28   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
I went through the same process last winter. I was shooting with a D7100 and wanted to go full-frame. I wanted better image quality overall, better contrast, and better low-light ability--that is less noise when I had to crank up the ISO. I think that full-frame is going to deliver on these fronts, regardless of what model you pick. I have been shooting full-frame since April, and I am not looking back.

I would seriously think about what you want out of a camera that your D7200 does not do. It looks to me that you are looking for a justification to upgrade. If you cannot think of what you want out of a new camera I would stick with the D7200.

I seriously looked at the 610 and 750--dismissed the 810 and 850 because they were too big and too heavy. My situation was different in that I did not own any FX glass. So I was not tied to Nikon--in fact I chose the Sony A7 III, and I have no regrets. But I think that I would have been happy with a 750 as well.

The drawback of full-frame is that lenses that really use the potential of your camera tend to be heavy and expensive. If money is not a concern go for it. But here is the old truism: the more money you spend on a camera the less obvious the advantages over the next cheaper version are.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:45:46   #
CanonNoMore Loc: NW MT
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
I’d like to know if anyone has gone from a D7200 (or 7100/7500) to a full frame, specifically either the D600/610 or the D750. If so, please tell me why you made the change and if you have any regrets. Any information in helping me decide is appreciated. From what I’ve found in researching the 600s and the 750, besides there being more bells and whistles on the 750, image quality between them doesn’t appear to be much of a difference.

I’m aware of the lens issue and do have some lenses that are fx/dx compatible. Please don’t recommend the 810/850 or above.

Thank you for any help or information you can share.
I’d like to know if anyone has gone from a D7200 (... (show quote)


As to your image quality question, both the D610 and the D750 share the exact same sensor and focus system, image quality is identical between them both. And except for the D750's tilt screen and Wi-Fi features, the bodies are pretty much identical as well.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:49:08   #
Charlie'smom
 
zug55 wrote:
I went through the same process last winter. I was shooting with a D7100 and wanted to go full-frame. I wanted better image quality overall, better contrast, and better low-light ability--that is less noise when I had to crank up the ISO. I think that full-frame is going to deliver on these fronts, regardless of what model you pick. I have been shooting full-frame since April, and I am not looking back.

I would seriously think about what you want out of a camera that your D7200 does not do. It looks to me that you are looking for a justification to upgrade. If you cannot think of what you want out of a new camera I would stick with the D7200.

I seriously looked at the 610 and 750--dismissed the 810 and 850 because they were too big and too heavy. My situation was different in that I did not own any FX glass. So I was not tied to Nikon--in fact I chose the Sony A7 III, and I have no regrets. But I think that I would have been happy with a 750 as well.

The drawback of full-frame is that lenses that really use the potential of your camera tend to be heavy and expensive. If money is not a concern go for it. But here is the old truism: the more money you spend on a camera the less obvious the advantages over the next cheaper version are.
I went through the same process last winter. I was... (show quote)


What I want out of an upgrade is pretty much what you wanted when you upgraded—better image quality. As with you, the 810/850s are too heavy. With what I shoot, I’ll really only have to replace my 18-140mm with a 28-300mm. I may upgrade the lenses I already have for faster lenses, but not for awhile.

Thank you very much for your insightful information.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:50:31   #
Charlie'smom
 
CanonNoMore wrote:
As to your image quality question, both the D610 and the D750 share the exact same sensor and focus system, image quality is identical between them both. And except for the D750's tilt screen and Wi-Fi features, the bodies are pretty much identical as well.


Thank you. I’m leaning toward the 600/610 as the savings are considerable.

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Sep 5, 2018 19:17:36   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
I’d like to know if anyone has gone from a D7200 (or 7100/7500) to a full frame, specifically either the D600/610 or the D750. If so, please tell me why you made the change and if you have any regrets. Any information in helping me decide is appreciated. From what I’ve found in researching the 600s and the 750, besides there being more bells and whistles on the 750, image quality between them doesn’t appear to be much of a difference.

I’m aware of the lens issue and do have some lenses that are fx/dx compatible. Please don’t recommend the 810/850 or above.

Thank you for any help or information you can share.
I’d like to know if anyone has gone from a D7200 (... (show quote)


Have had a D7200 for some time now, but like you, have a mix of DX and FX glass. Was at my local camera shop a couple of weeks back and, as usual, asked about any good deals and behold, they had a bunch of used FF bodies, but I saw a D800 in great shape with 17,900 actuations for a great price. I couldn't resist and now have a very nice FF body in addition to the D7200. So, you might think about a used FF to ADD to your camera bag as long as you have the FX glass.

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Sep 5, 2018 19:20:20   #
Charlie'smom
 
Strodav wrote:
Have had a D7200 for some time now, but like you, have a mix of DX and FX glass. Was at my local camera shop a couple of weeks back and, as usual, asked about any good deals and behold, they had a bunch of used FF bodies, but I saw a D800 in great shape with 17,900 actuations for a great price. I couldn't resist and now have a very nice FF body in addition to the D7200. So, you might think about a used FF to ADD to your camera bag as long as you have the FX glass.


Thank you. I, too, will be keeping the 7200 and only adding to what I already have. How do you like your 800? I might have to consider that one as a choice, also.

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Sep 5, 2018 19:22:51   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
With what I shoot, I’ll really only have to replace my 18-140mm with a 28-300mm.

It is interesting that we arrived at opposite conclusions. I replaced my DX 18-140mm with primes (and the Sony 24-105mm). I love the IQ of good primes, and it I love the way primes force you view the world on their terms. It is humbling and exciting. Yet, as you say, it all depends on what kind of shooting you do and what makes you excited about photography.

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Sep 5, 2018 19:30:04   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
Thank you. I, too, will be keeping the 7200 and only adding to what I already have. How do you like your 800? I might have to consider that one as a choice, also.


Go for the best deal you can find. I am high on DxOmark where the D850 flagship body gets a rating of 100, the D800 = 95, the D600 and D610 = 94, the D750 = 93, the D7200 = 87. The big difference is 36.3mp for the D800 and 24mp for the 600, 610 and 750, which is the same as the D7200. I wanted to go to a higher resolution in a FF than I have with the D7200.

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Sep 5, 2018 20:10:33   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
You might find this odd, but I went in the other direction. Already had a D610 --which is a great camera (for not being a D810 or greater)-- and added to the stable in a 'downsized' fashion. First picked up a D5300, then a D7200. I use them all, not uncommonly carrying both the DX and the FX cameras together, and using lenses interchangeably. Are there differences? Of course there are, and too many to try to list here. But under 'ordinary' conditions, whatever final image quality differences there theoretically are, I cannot tell any difference between images made with DX or FX once I've finalized an image in post-process. And I DO pixel peep, and look very closely at things. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to imply that everything here, among these several bodies, is equal; it is not. But in the end --be it in a print or a web posted image-- neither I nor anyone else here would be able to tell the difference.

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Sep 5, 2018 20:11:51   #
Charlie'smom
 
zug55 wrote:
It is interesting that we arrived at opposite conclusions. I replaced my DX 18-140mm with primes (and the Sony 24-105mm). I love the IQ of good primes, and it I love the way primes force you view the world on their terms. It is humbling and exciting. Yet, as you say, it all depends on what kind of shooting you do and what makes you excited about photography.


I have my 50mm which is an fx. That’s the lens I use 50-60% of the time. The 18-140 I use about 40% of the time. The rest is split among my other lenses.

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Sep 5, 2018 20:21:12   #
Charlie'smom
 
Strodav wrote:
Go for the best deal you can find. I am high on DxOmark where the D850 flagship body gets a rating of 100, the D800 = 95, the D600 and D610 = 94, the D750 = 93, the D7200 = 87. The big difference is 36.3mp for the D800 and 24mp for the 600, 610 and 750, which is the same as the D7200. I wanted to go to a higher resolution in a FF than I have with the D7200.


Well since the 850, and probably the 800/810, are out of the question because of the weight, I’ll “settle” for a 94 or 93 rating. I’ve looked at all their image quality ratings, and between the 600 and 750, it’s just not that significant. If I were younger and stronger, it would be the 810 or, dare I say, the 850. As it is, the 600 or 750 will not be used for longer walks/hikes. That’s why I’ll be keeping the 7200, which is really a fantastic camera.

From what I’ve been able to learn, the main difference in jumping from the 7200 is the size of the sensor, which helps in obtaining better image quality.

I love retirement. It gives me so much more time to figure out how to spend my under-the-mattress, waiting-for-a-rainy-day stash.

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Sep 5, 2018 20:23:18   #
Charlie'smom
 
Cany143 wrote:
You might find this odd, but I went in the other direction. Already had a D610 --which is a great camera (for not being a D810 or greater)-- and added to the stable in a 'downsized' fashion. First picked up a D5300, then a D7200. I use them all, not uncommonly carrying both the DX and the FX cameras together, and using lenses interchangeably. Are there differences? Of course there are, and too many to try to list here. But under 'ordinary' conditions, whatever final image quality differences there theoretically are, I cannot tell any difference between images made with DX or FX once I've finalized an image in post-process. And I DO pixel peep, and look very closely at things. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to imply that everything here, among these several bodies, is equal; it is not. But in the end --be it in a print or a web posted image-- neither I nor anyone else here would be able to tell the difference.
You might find this odd, but I went in the other d... (show quote)


You are so right, and I should just be satisfied with the excellent camera I have and buy better glass.

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Sep 5, 2018 20:24:34   #
HardwareGuy
 
Strodav wrote:
Have had a D7200 for some time now, but like you, have a mix of DX and FX glass. Was at my local camera shop a couple of weeks back and, as usual, asked about any good deals and behold, they had a bunch of used FF bodies, but I saw a D800 in great shape with 17,900 actuations for a great price. I couldn't resist and now have a very nice FF body in addition to the D7200. So, you might think about a used FF to ADD to your camera bag as long as you have the FX glass.

Just wondering if you can actually tell that the FF has significantly better image quality than the D7200 without extreme "pixle peeping".

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Sep 5, 2018 20:29:59   #
jonjacobik Loc: Quincy, MA
 
While I haven't used the D7200, I can tell you that I chose the D7500 for the sensor. It's the same sensor as D500, and while it's a slightly smaller image than the 7200, it's a much better photograph- in low light.
I shoot a lot wildlife, in the woods or at dawn where I need a 2000th of second. I upgraded from the D5600 and it's a very worthwhile upgrade.

If, on the other hand, you only shoot weddings, family gatherings, or mid-day scenes, you'll probably get the same images out of either camera. The 7200 is 2015 tech, and the 7500 2017 tech. That may mean something.

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