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Sep 3, 2018 17:07:38   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Chris T wrote:
Polonois ... were those "E" lenses you bought to use on your Sony SLT bodies? ...

If so - did nobody tell you that won't work?

The adapters you can purchase (LA-EA3, LA-EA4) are for allowing use of a-mount lenses - on E-Mount bodies, such as the FF a7 series, and the a6000s.

Where did I say I bought E-mount? Sorry I bought A-mount Sony just after I bought the A65. It's the flashes, the HVLF-58AMs that won't fit the A77ii without an adapter and the HVLF-60 Fits the A77ii but not the A65.

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Sep 3, 2018 17:13:15   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
polonois wrote:
Where did I say I bought E-mount? Sorry I bought A-mount Sony just after I bought the A65.


You didn't say either, Polonois ... but, it occurred to me, you might have bought some E lenses, as you said it heated up, on you ...

A to E - with an adapter ... you can't go the other way ....

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Sep 3, 2018 17:15:56   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Chris T wrote:
You didn't say either, Polonois ... but, it occurred to me, you might have bought some E lenses, as you said it heated up, on you ...

A to E - with an adapter ... you can't go the other way ....


I'm aware of that it's the HVLF-60 that heats up after a few shots

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Sep 3, 2018 17:18:16   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
polonois wrote:
I'm aware of that it's the HVLF-60 that heats up after a few shots


Where did you get that adapter? ... Is it a Sony product? ... Have you called the distributor of that item?

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Sep 3, 2018 17:24:24   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
polonois wrote:
Where did I say I bought E-mount? Sorry I bought A-mount Sony just after I bought the A65. It's the flashes, the HVLF-58AMs that won't fit the A77ii without an adapter and the HVLF-60 Fits the A77ii but not the A65.


Polonois ... I don't have the a65 (wanted one) so I have no way to compare sizes, but, if it's a smaller body, such as the a58, which, effectively, replaced it - it's easy to see why you might have difficulty ... whilst the lens flange is the same - the overhang is very different. The larger a77 bodies, will easily accommodate an adapter, but, I don't think my a58 (or your a65) will ... so - perhaps, it is "crowded" by the overhang, and that's why it overheats .... ?

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Sep 3, 2018 17:43:04   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Chris T wrote:
Polonois ... I don't have the a65 (wanted one) so I have no way to compare sizes, but, if it's a smaller body, such as the a58, which, effectively, replaced it - it's easy to see why you might have difficulty ... whilst the lens flange is the same - the overhang is very different. The larger a77 bodies, will easily accommodate an adapter, but, I don't think my a58 (or your a65) will ... so - perhaps, it is "crowded" by the overhang, and that's why it overheats .... ?


The A65 body is somewhat smaller.
This might be a better explanation of what happens with the flashes.
I use the HVLF-58AM on the A65 with no problems, I use the other HVLF-58AM on the A77ii with the Sony supplied adapter no problems either.
When using the HVL-F60M on the A77ii the flash heats up rather quickly and the flash shuts off, not the camera. After it cools a few minutes it works again till it shuts off.
I don't use the HVL-F60M on the A65 ever. I use the HVLF-58AMs on both cameras. One with an adapter and one without never any problems. Most of the time I leave the HVL-F60M at home. It only gets used when I need to only take a few shots.

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Sep 3, 2018 18:00:18   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
polonois wrote:
The A65 body is somewhat smaller.
This might be a better explanation of what happens with the flashes.
I use the HVLF-58AM on the A65 with no problems, I use the other HVLF-58AM on the A77ii with the Sony supplied adapter no problems either.
When using the HVL-F60M on the A77ii the flash heats up rather quickly and the flash shuts off, not the camera. After it cools a few minutes it works again till it shuts off.
I don't use the HVL-F60M on the A65 ever. I use the HVLF-58AMs on both cameras. One with an adapter and one without never any problems. Most of the time I leave the HVL-F60M at home. It only gets used when I need to only take a few shots.
The A65 body is somewhat smaller. br This might be... (show quote)


Polonois ... I suspect the problem you're having is to do with the Multi-Interface Flash, on the newer a77 II - which is a little different than the hot-shoe on the a77 and a65 - both much older models. I think the HVL-F60 was designed with the older models, in mind. There might be a newer unit available now, for the a77 II ... have a look at B&H ... see what they have ...



Just looked them up in the B&H Catalogue ... the top Sony flash unit, now - seems to be the HVL-F60RM ($600) ... seems to be the ticket, eh?

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Sep 3, 2018 18:16:23   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Chris T wrote:
Polonois ... I suspect the problem you're having is to do with the Multi-Interface Flash, on the newer a77 II - which is a little different than the hot-shoe on the a77 and a65 - both much older models. I think the HVL-F60 was designed with the older models, in mind. There might be a newer unit available now, for the a77 II ... have a look at B&H ... see what they have ...



Just looked them up in the B&H Catalogue ... the top Sony flash unit, now - seems to be the HVL-F60RM ($600) ... seems to be the ticket, eh?
Polonois ... I suspect the problem you're having i... (show quote)


Thanks, I'll check it out.

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Sep 3, 2018 18:22:29   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
polonois wrote:
Thanks, I'll check it out.


Good, Polonois ... I figured that out from the Sony Lens Chart, included with your OEM products ... there are lines pointing from unit-to-unit ...

Do you have one of those?

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Sep 3, 2018 19:15:15   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
I think so.

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Sep 3, 2018 19:34:14   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
polonois wrote:
I think so.


Oh, good ... do you have one showing the alpha a77 II, or is it older, showing the a77 as the top dog?

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Sep 3, 2018 19:53:46   #
DTran
 
I think it depends Chris. Do you think you're going to buy another SLR body or another A mount lens? If you think so then I think Sony will continue to make them.

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Sep 3, 2018 20:08:42   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
DTran wrote:
I think it depends Chris. Do you think you're going to buy another SLR body or another A mount lens? If you think so then I think Sony will continue to make them.


I had been looking to purchase the upgrade to the alpha a77 II, as I had been informed, here, as a matter of fact, there was one, in the works, D. As far as Sony glass, not sure I'll be buying much of that. I have a couple, but, don't know about buying anymore. One I might get is the Sony 30mm Macro, but there seems to be some confusion as to whether it's AF, or not ... I've yet to figure that out. Another one, I've been considering, is the 70-400 ... but, I suspect it's more wishing, than doing much about it. There are some third party items, on my list, however. Also, there's some Minolta glass around, too ...


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Sep 3, 2018 20:20:39   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Chris T wrote:
Oh, good ... do you have one showing the alpha a77 II, or is it older, showing the a77 as the top dog?


I just looked and I couldn't find it.

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Sep 3, 2018 20:34:19   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
polonois wrote:
I just looked and I couldn't find it.


I'm pretty sure they pack a new one in the box, with each body. It might also be included in each lens box - but, I am not positive about that. I have three bodies, and can lay my hands on two, but, if I have a third, I don't know where it is. Oh, btw - also, I bought two lenses, new. So, not sure what that says!

They are handy to have ... I used to keep one in the bag with my alpha a77 II, but, I recently made some changes in my bags, switching some Sony stuff to a kit bag, instead of having everything in individual bags, so, I am not sure where that one is, now. But, I do seem to remember, one of them, predates the release of the alpha a77 II ... so, that one surely depicts the a77 as the top Sony SLT camera. It will also show the a65 as the next level down. This one, I have, near the PC, shows the a77 II, and the a58, but makes no mention of the older models. However, a glance at that, suddenly, made me realize the problem, Polonois. If you look at the two hot-shoes, side-by-side - you can SEE the difference, instantly ... the most glaring difference in the two a77s.

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