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Oct 31, 2011 07:19:38   #
20X
 
Horse photography is tricky - especially if you are doing it for the owner. There are a tremendous number of things owners look for in an image - are the ears in the right position, is the mane pulled or braided perfectly, what's the position of the legs, head, neck, eyes etc... They tend to very picky - and when you introduce the rider into the photo it just gets more complicated. Also, horse photography is BIG business at riding events - there are always professionals there that go from show to show, the horse owners know them and both are particularly protective of thier livelihood.

Now for your shots don't forget to study the full image when composing the shot. The background distracts from your shots - the house in the first one and the people riding and the poles growing from the back of the horse in the second shot.

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Oct 31, 2011 10:12:06   #
PHFoto Loc: Idaho
 
Howdeee, I was in Hong Kong a few times and ran into the same situation, then they would hold out their hand for a Hong Kong dollar, Then you could take as many pictures as you liked. With a smile :)

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Oct 31, 2011 11:02:54   #
Celia Loc: Pine Canyon, Utah
 
Believe me, there are those types of people in every sport, equine included. It's just too bad you had to deal with someone like that, at any time. Go to shows. Photo horses in pastures. They make good subjects. For the record. If you want to shoot photo's of any of my horses, you are welcome.

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Oct 31, 2011 11:41:49   #
joec Loc: Central Texas, USA
 
Jwilliams0469 wrote:
This horse is at a Halloween event just outside of where I live. I don't know why they had horses as part of the event but they did. This is the only one I had permission to shoot. Sorry, she only let me take two photographs then asked me to move on. People are rude these days. I don't think I was hurting anything by taking photographs. I even offered to send her copies but she didn't want that either.


In the first shot the backlighting on the mane is nice, but the backlight fooled the camera a bit--horse's face is underexposed. If you have some post-processing software try using fill light to lighten up the subject without blowing out the backlight even more.

Joe C

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Oct 31, 2011 12:17:29   #
jepoplin Loc: Steamboat Springs, CO
 
I live in an area with a lot of ranches and horses and never have encountered an owner like you did.

As far as the photos, watch you composition and what going on in the background. I'd crop the first one to a portrait, vertical vs. horizontal. There's a not of neck in that photo and takes away from the face of the horse. The windows in the house also take away from your photo. In the second one, your horizon looks off kilter and the power poles take away from the photo. Just make sure you are looking at everything in the frame, not just your subject.

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Oct 31, 2011 12:24:40   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Jwilliams0469 wrote:
This horse is at a Halloween event just outside of where I live. I don't know why they had horses as part of the event but they did. This is the only one I had permission to shoot. Sorry, she only let me take two photographs then asked me to move on. People are rude these days. I don't think I was hurting anything by taking photographs. I even offered to send her copies but she didn't want that either.


How very weird. Usually if you are at a public event with your animals you expect to be photographed. Oh well on to the C&C that you asked for. Keep in mind this is just my opinion. I would like to see the horse lightened up a bit in the first picture. His face is in the shade and I think you would might be able to pull out some of the detail that gets lost in the shadow. Too bad you couldn't shoot from the other side of the horse so the sun was to your back.

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Oct 31, 2011 12:30:27   #
Sensei
 
I found many parts of the world where people seemed to have that fear reaction I try to get around it by having a small discreet camera (yes a point and shoot) as well as one with a 28-300 lens, that will let me get the shoot from a distance.

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Oct 31, 2011 13:06:21   #
jokescache1 Loc: SW Utah
 
Jwilliams0469 wrote:
This horse is at a Halloween event just outside of where I live. I don't know why they had horses as part of the event but they did. This is the only one I had permission to shoot. Sorry, she only let me take two photographs then asked me to move on. People are rude these days. I don't think I was hurting anything by taking photographs. I even offered to send her copies but she didn't want that either.


no one appears to have answered your post,,"critique please"..
I think both pics look good,sharp/color/etc..
the second one is basically a, snapshot,pic the family could love.
if wanting for sale or show,then it would be better with head up/alert/looking around..still a good pic..
one reason she could have been short with you, you said there was another photog there taking pics of her and horse,,she could have hired a pro[or friend] to do this,and was conserned that it would disturb the shoot..
of course her way of expressing that was not nice..

pps; shame I'm such a slow typer.. by time I got done & sent.. many have done a critique..LOL

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Oct 31, 2011 13:15:02   #
SloppyJoe Loc: Walkertown N.C.
 
fthomas wrote:
Don't feel bad. I'm sure that you approached her in the appropriate way.

I lived in Hong Kong for a few years and there were many people in Asia that believed that if you photographed them that you were capturing their spirit. I've had oranges thrown at me and chased down the street with a bambo pole.

Trust me it could have beeh worse. She at least wasn't physically throwing the dung at you in a literal sense.


Now, that would make a good photo! Just kidding. Hope you have nicer people to ask the next time. Good luck! :-)

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Oct 31, 2011 13:36:09   #
kimberliswenson Loc: Ridgefield, WA
 
It is possible that the other photographer was there being paid to shoot the horse and girl, and may have felt that you were infringing. It doesn't always pay to ask permission. There was a thread on here the other day about photographer's rights and no expectations of privacy at a public place or event. You tried to do the right thing, though and should be commended. You got a couple of great shots of a beautiful horse anyhow!



Jwilliams0469 wrote:
fthomas wrote:
To bad you didn't have more of a chance to to shoot such a beautiful animal. I think an apple would have done the trick. Not for the horse, but to plug the mouth of the owner. I know, rude thought.


Not a rude thought at all! I was hoping she'd just disappear and leave the horse. The reason I even brought up why I didn't get to shoot the horse like I had really wanted to was simply because, the lady photographer's that was there was shooting away and the girl was all smiles and in the photographs, then I asked for permission (excuse me! Hi! She's a beautiful horse, would you mind if I take a few photographs of her as well?) That's when stuff hit the sky with her... Did I ask wrong?
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Oct 31, 2011 15:45:45   #
Unclewiggley Loc: Winter Haven, FL
 
I photographed jumpers and did horse portraits some time ago. If you photograph them again carry a "clicker" of some type in your pocket. A small tape measure would do and all you have to do is open it to about 4ft and double it over. To get the horses attention flick it and the horse will put up both ears and you will get a purfect shot. It worked for me every time. Of course!! the owner of the horse has to be agreeable to you taking a picture.

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Oct 31, 2011 16:18:29   #
lizardworks Loc: Western Slope of Colorado
 
I just had to chuckle, you're post title implies something entirely different than photographs! You know, something like "Grab the rifle, Ol' Blue broke his leg". Sorry, maybe that's only kinda funny to "horsey people" such as myself :?

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Oct 31, 2011 19:41:57   #
RLPCEP Loc: Tallahassee FL
 
Only if she was insecure -- and I'll bet she was.

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Oct 31, 2011 22:42:15   #
cancatphoto
 
Photographing horses can be very rewarding. I have been enjoying the process not only with my horses, but have done some really fun shoots with my friends horses as well.
Those little windmills that small children like to carry will get a nice alert reaction. Just be careful, because the flight reaction can be very high in some horses. I have used carrots to get some very precious shots. When they know you have that carrot, they will really come alive. Even my blase horses. These are just a couple of ideas, that I hope will help anyone wanting to photo horses. Of course lighting, timing and patience plays a big role.

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Oct 31, 2011 23:02:47   #
ggiaphotos Loc: Iowa
 
What a beautiful horse Shasta is, and great photos for a quick 2 pix shot! More time, more photos, and and and and. Given the circumstances, perfect!

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