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Whatever happened to the true pocket-sized camera? ... You know - the ones that shot FF, but could be slid into a pants pocket?
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Aug 9, 2018 12:06:08   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
DTran wrote:
The Olympus XA is a full frame camera and would fit in a shirt pocket. It was designed to fit in a shirt pocket.


Is the XA still around (made) - D?

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Aug 9, 2018 12:09:03   #
DTran
 
Chris T wrote:
Is the XA still around (made) - D?


Don't know but I have 2 of them plus an XA2.

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Aug 9, 2018 12:30:17   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
DTran wrote:
Don't know but I have 2 of them plus an XA2.


A trio of shirt-sized pocket cameras, huh?

But - shirts only come with TWO pockets (if you're lucky) ... where do you put the third, D?


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Aug 9, 2018 12:34:44   #
DTran
 

Actually all 3 of them are on the shelf. I rarely ever use them.

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Aug 9, 2018 12:37:19   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
User ID wrote:
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I had the last camera of the collection - the Dial 35, which was a half-frame camera - it shot two photos in the space of a 35mm neg. I think it was a joint venture between Canon and Bell & Howell, and mine was branded Bell & Howell. The hand in the photo is around a knob which was a wind-up film advance - kind of a budget motor drive. It had a hot shoe, and I sometimes used it with a flash which was about twice as big as the camera.

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Aug 9, 2018 12:42:15   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
DTran wrote:

Actually all 3 of them are on the shelf. I rarely ever use them.


Good spot for pocket-sized cameras, D ... on the shelf!!!!

If I had a true-pocket sized (digital) camera - it would always be in my shirt-pocket !!!!

And, whenever I shopped for new shirts - I'd ALWAYS make sure they had a pocket - for that very special item!

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Aug 9, 2018 12:44:16   #
DTran
 
Chris T wrote:
Good spot for pocket-sized cameras, D ... on the shelf!!!!

If I had a true-pocket sized (digital) camera - it would always be in my shirt-pocket !!!!

And, whenever I shopped for new shirts - I'd ALWAYS make sure they had a pocket - for that very special item!


Of course there are many true pocket sized digital cameras but none is full frame.

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Aug 9, 2018 12:45:49   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I had the last camera of the collection - the Dial 35, which was a half-frame camera - it shot two photos in the space of a 35mm neg. I think it was a joint venture between Canon and Bell & Howell, and mine was branded Bell & Howell. The hand in the photo is around a knob which was a wind-up film advance - kind of a budget motor drive. It had a hot shoe, and I sometimes used it with a flash which was about twice as big as the camera.


That partnership is long gone, now, John. Bell and Howell, eventually - dissolved. Now, the name's been bought up by a Chinese? company, pushing flashlights!

Their chief forte - when they were still in the photography business ... were their projectors - some of the best on the market - at the time!

They made a bunch of movie cameras, too - mostly 8mm and 16mm ...

It seems they are still around, here, in America ... headquartered, now - in Durham, N.C. ... but they have diversified, considerably ....

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Aug 9, 2018 12:52:45   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
DTran wrote:
Of course there are many true pocket sized digital cameras but none is full frame.


The new Light 16 is pocket-sized, D ... but, I'm not sure whether the "16" refers to the approximate size of the sensor (16mm) or the 16 built-in lenses ...

Perhaps, considering its advanced technology ... the size of the sensor / and equivalent frame, related to 35mm ... is a non-starter ....

The Light 16 ... pocket-sized MF cam
The Light 16 ... pocket-sized MF cam...

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Aug 10, 2018 04:28:30   #
User ID
 
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How did I earlier skip this cult classic gem ?

Possibly the smallest RF 35 of conventional
design or style. I had a pair, and still know
where one of them is. I think I ought to go
get it and do a shot of this one set next to
my little Lumix GM5. The GM5 is NOT at all
the tiniest m43 ... but just like the RC35 it
is the tiniest "normal design" with both AE
and full manual controls. The GM5 seems
to be the truest descendant of the RC 35.





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Aug 10, 2018 12:10:20   #
User ID
 
Chris T wrote:
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not sure whether the "16" refers to the approximate
size of the sensor (16mm) or the 16 built-in lenses .....

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IIRC, "sensor size" ... in the singular ... is misleading
cuz every lens has its own sensor. 16 lenses shine on
16 sensors, so the name "Light 16" is quite honest ;-)

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Aug 10, 2018 12:25:54   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
User ID wrote:
IIRC, "sensor size" ... in the singular ... is misleading
cuz every lens has its own sensor. 16 lenses shine on
16 sensors, so the name "Light 16" is quite honest ;-)

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Of course, User ID ... I do realize there is a different sensor for each lens in the Light 16 ... but, I'm still not sure how the frame-size relates to 35mm, or 16mm ...

Actually, not really sure, at all, about there being a different sensor, for each of the 16 lenses, in the Light 16 ... did you see that in a break-down of it?

BTW ... some of the ads for it - equivocate the Light 16 with carrying around a MF!!! ... in your shirt pocket, no less!!!!

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Aug 10, 2018 20:40:06   #
User ID
 
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I think it's sorta like those 8 eyes on a
spider. IOW it's all about the firmware.


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Aug 10, 2018 21:10:44   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
User ID wrote:
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I think it's sorta like those 8 eyes on a
spider. IOW it's all about the firmware.


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I see, User ID ... wondered how they do it ... so, it's all in the firmware, is it?

I suspect it might be worth the $1600 (refurb) for a look-see ... whaddya think?

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Feb 21, 2019 04:48:10   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
I have a Kiev35 around here ... somewhere. It would fit in a shirt pocket.

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