Just what the heck is DxO offering us with the new NIK filter for $50?! (Page 2): They are trying to have a little money left over after they go bankrupt. I don't think you get...

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

They are trying to have a little money left over after they go bankrupt. I don't think you get anything except for a foot in the door for less than other will have to pay that didn't get it when it was free. So you'll get some free updates until they do a major "upgrade". If you read the fine print, if they come out with a new version, you will have to pay again.

Davethehiker wrote:

I'm a long time user of DxO (PhotoLab) and I also use PS CC 2018. Long ago I bought NIK filters, when you had pay for them. The NIK filters are installed on PS CC and works very well. DxO PL has the new "Local Adjustment" tool. PS CC still has my NIK filters, including color effects Pro that works very well.

Just what is that DxO is trying to sell me?

brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky

My time is limited today, but I took some time this morning to purchase/download/install the Dx0 NIK tools. The purchase and download were straightforward, as was the installation. I found the process to be very stable. No issues.

I opened an image in PS2018 and applied a Viveza layer. The experience exuded stability I had never sensed in the toolset. I'm anxious to do some real work with it, when time permits.

Bill_de Loc: US

jeep_daddy wrote:

They are trying to have a little money left over after they go bankrupt. I don't think you get anything except for a foot in the door for less than other will have to pay that didn't get it when it was free. So you'll get some free updates until they do a major "upgrade". If you read the fine print, if they come out with a new version, you will have to pay again.

When I got my new Jeep I had to pay again too, and there were only a few upgrades from my last one. I'll bet it's the same people making the updates to the Jeep and the NIK software. Greedy SOB's all want a pay check at the end of the week.

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baygolf Loc: DMV

How well does the DXO NIX software play with 4k Monitors?

brucewells wrote:

My time is limited today, but I took some time this morning to purchase/download/install the Dx0 NIK tools. The purchase and download were straightforward, as was the installation. I found the process to be very stable. No issues.

I opened an image in PS2018 and applied a Viveza layer. The experience exuded stability I had never sensed in the toolset. I'm anxious to do some real work with it, when time permits.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Dave, years ago when it was a 'pay to play' plugin, I downloaded the free trial version. I went through it, on a level most wouldn't. I found that there was nothing it did that one couldn't do with adjustment curves and layers. I decided that it wasn't worth paying for something I could accomplish with what I had. By the time it was offered for free, again, why bother, I could already do all that it offered.
--Bob

Davethehiker wrote:

I'm a long time user of DxO (PhotoLab) and I also use PS CC 2018. Long ago I bought NIK filters, when you had pay for them. The NIK filters are installed on PS CC and works very well. DxO PL has the new "Local Adjustment" tool. PS CC still has my NIK filters, including color effects Pro that works very well.

Just what is that DxO is trying to sell me?

Bill_de Loc: US

rmalarz wrote:

Dave, years ago when it was a 'pay to play' plugin, I downloaded the free trial version. I went through it, on a level most wouldn't. I found that there was nothing it did that one couldn't do with adjustment curves and layers. I decided that it wasn't worth paying for something I could accomplish with what I had. By the time it was offered for free, again, why bother, I could already do all that it offered.
--Bob

Bob, you have mastered a number of techniques, and it shows in the images you post. Many of us want/need a crutch. It is like buying pre-sets (which I don't do) which are nothing more than settings anyone can do. Some may have a complex recipe, but others can be done by learning what a few sliders achieve when working together.

Something for everyone!

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brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky

baygolf wrote:

How well does the DXO NIX software play with 4k Monitors?

Sorry, but I have to say, "I don't know."

Mortsid

The DxO Nik is not ready for prime time. Some dropdown menus are still muddled. I t does not play nice with OnOne Plugins. I am going to remove it put Google's Nik Back on.

Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania

Mortsid wrote:

The DxO Nik is not ready for prime time. Some dropdown menus are still muddled. I t does not play nice with OnOne Plugins. I am going to remove it put Google's Nik Back on.

That's a disappointment!

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Bill, thanks for the nice compliment. That "mastering" came from a great many hours of structured struggling, analyzing, and making copious notes. This is something I continue to do.

I realize that many folks don't wish to spend that much time working on making a presentable photograph. For those folks, plugins such as NIK are a blessing. My comments regarding not needing plugins are made more on an incentive level. Perhaps someone will read a comment and look into adjustments other than the usual brightness/contrast, etc. Curves, for example, are very powerful, but a lot of people don't use or, perhaps, even know about them. Again, thanks and hopefully this explains my comments.
--Bob

Bill_de wrote:

Bob, you have mastered a number of techniques, and it shows in the images you post. Many of us want/need a crutch. It is like buying pre-sets (which I don't do) which are nothing more than settings anyone can do. Some may have a complex recipe, but others can be done by learning what a few sliders achieve when working together.

Something for everyone!

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peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA

After downloading DxO's Nik, the apps would not install on my Mac/High Sierra. I got an error message about no Internet connection or that the Nik activation number was wrong. The problem was another app, "Little Snitch", which monitors my Internet traffic. When installing Nik, the installer "calls home" to DxO and "Little Snitch" thought it was malware. The fix was to disable "Little Snitch" when installing Nik. There may be other Internet-monitoring apps and/or install apps that may trigger the same problem.

Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY

Gene51 wrote:

From what I gather, they have meticulously gone ov... (show quote)

I agree with Gene51... the first step is updating the software's code, fixing whatever bugs there are, making sure it is compatible with the newest versions of Adobe software and the newest operating systems and the latest updates to them. This would be the expected first step in the process before adding new features and/or improving on existing ones. It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to add new features to NIK if there are bugs present and it doesn't function correctly.

$49.99 isn't too high a price to pay for software that has been updated so it works properly with Adobe products and with the newest Windows and MAC OS out there. The first thing people do is complain about a product when it doesn't work the way they expect it to. So lets be patient and see what is next from DXO and NIK.

James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)

I have been a long time user of NIK software - bought it and had a few updates before it was free.

I am of the thinking that IF it WORKS - and You Like it - Don't mess with it. Hell! I am still quite happy with the results that I get with Adobe RAW and using Adobe Bridge for CS-5. (I do use Canon Digital Photo Professional 4.0.) And NO.... I do not wish to make use of "Lightroom". (I am still learning things in CS-5.) Call me old-school and that is good for me. I still have a "wet-darkroom". And "Old Fashion Cameras".

What I am saying is that IF you are comfortable, and are getting the results that you like -- Why change?

This is only my opinion -- Others here will have their own - and should.

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Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Davethehiker wrote:

Please tell us what you learn.

I like and use DxO a lot. I'm just looking for good reason to toss them another $50, other than I'm a good sport.

I didn't find anything new, but this video may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bciy9HWdB1Y

I have not encountered compatibility or instability issues - current Adobe CC versions of LR and PS, and still running Win7 Pro.

The takeaway from the video is that DXO should be rewarded with our loyalty (and $$$) for taking on the maintenance, support and development of Nik, and if you are a bit selfish, and your Nik is working ok, don't bother upgrading.

I will be sending my $50 for the upgrade tomorrow. I hope that this helps keep DXO out of receivership and allowed to keep up it's good work. They are a good company.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

DannyKaye wrote:

It already ran on the latest windows and adobe and I have never seen a bug. What I got from the press release was that Dx0 and Nik now work together. I am happy with the free one.

Nope!

DXO Photolab has adopted the NIk Control Point tech for local adjustment. You still have to export files from DXO to Nik. I think Nik works better with Lightroom and Photoshop, than DXO, other than the U-Point (control point) technology. No other raw converter uses U-Point or Control Point, other than the old Nikon software, Capture NX.