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Would you buy a backup camera or longer telephoto lens?
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May 30, 2018 11:22:00   #
BarbB
 
That's a great suggestion, and it responds to the question about same or different camera bodies for main and backup...but then still limits my reach with telephoto, unless I buy the longer lens as well...not sure budget will permit:-(
kskarma wrote:
I am a strong advocate of always having 2 bodies...(and 4 batteries for them....!) The 'comfort, convenience and peace of mind' of having both a backup camera is invaluable. This, as well as minimizing the time...and exposure to the elements, when changing lenses are just 2 good reasons for carrying a pair of cameras. In my case, I have two Nikon D750's, one of them with a Nikon 28-300mm and the other with a Sigma 17-35 mm. So...with this setup, I have covered the 17-300 mm range with a small overlap....I rarely have to change lenses...and the need to have "that other lens mounted" seems to always come at a very inopportune time...! If your budget permits, I suggest that both cameras be the same model...and set up in the same way....this prevents any confusion about which 'mode', etc. your camera is in when the action is greatest.

Remember that "Murphy's Law" has never been repealed...!!

A final 'tip' that helps me a lot...is to have two different colored neck straps, this lets me see which camera is which while still in my case. I like Domke products and I have one tan 1.5 inch strap and one blue 1.5 inch strap....just my personal preference...
I am a strong advocate of always having 2 bodies..... (show quote)

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May 30, 2018 11:27:08   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
How about renting one, the other, or both?

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May 30, 2018 11:30:25   #
BarbB
 
I considered renting, and looked into that option, but the trip will be about a month, and cost of renting for that long is almost half of what a refurbished camera or lens would be..and I know I will be traveling in the future, so my thought is to buy and be able to use on future trips..
Bill_de wrote:
How about renting one, the other, or both?

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May 30, 2018 11:32:17   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
BarbB wrote:
I considered renting, and looked into that option, but the trip will be about a month, and cost of renting for that long is almost half of what a refurbished camera or lens would be..and I know I will be traveling in the future, so my thought is to buy and be able to use on future trips..


Trip of a lifetime. Personally I would just buy whatever you want pay it off later. We only live once.





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May 30, 2018 13:13:03   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
BarbB wrote:
I am planning a trip to Namibia, and currently shoot with a canon 5DM4. My longest lens is 70-300L. I was thinking about upgrading to the 100-400L II ( and adding a 1.4 extender) and then I thought about getting a second ( back up ) camera body, maybe the Canon 7DM2 instead. That, with it’s crop factor, would give me almost the same reach as the 100-400 with a 1.4 teleconverter. I could then have a camera with a landscape lens, and one with “wildlife” lens mounted. So, here is the question..How many of you travel with a back up camera, and is it the same model or type as your primary, or would you travel with one camera and a longer reach lens? Any advice would be appreciated. I am trying to make a purchasing decision that will serve me well not only this trip, but for future travels as well.
I am planning a trip to Namibia, and currently sho... (show quote)


You have a great camera, the 100-400L with the 1.4x III is a great combination, I have both the body and lens. I also use the lenses on an 80D. The reach pays off sometimes.
But as someone said Murphy is watching. Something can always happen, but probably won't. I would add a good bridge camera for a backup to both the camera and lens. Unless you plan on BIG prints (larger than 16x20) the bridge camera should get acceptable images if you have to fall back on it or use it for something way out there.

You might also consider the Tamron 150-600, it is almost as good as the 100-400 and you wouldn't need the extender. That would give you enough left to get a refurbished crop sensor body as a backup & long reach camera.

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May 30, 2018 13:20:11   #
kskarma Loc: Topeka, KS
 
BarbB wrote:
That's a great suggestion, and it responds to the question about same or different camera bodies for main and backup...but then still limits my reach with telephoto, unless I buy the longer lens as well...not sure budget will permit:-(


To continue a bit...I have not been to Namibia, and I don't know what sort of trip/safari you might be on. I have been to Kenya, and for that trip, which was mostly in those "pop up" top of vans, I found that the longest lens I had...which was a 300mm..(35mm film camera...in those days..) it was plenty long enough for most of the shots I got. Kenya is fairly open country so the 6 power of the 300mm lens allowed me to get good shots of the larger animals that were grazing there..elephants, giraffes, eland, etc....oftentimes there would be nice groupings of several animals...or even herds of antelope, etc. All of these made for good photos and I never felt that having an extreme close shot of one animal would have improved the photo. Our general schedule was to awaken early, get in the vans and head out for 2-3 hours in the AM when all of the wildlife was most active. This 2-3 hour time would be repeated around 3PM...again driving and shooting pix for several hours. Usually the vans would stop..(on the request of any of us in the van...nice to do that...!)..for a period of time that allowed plenty of pix...then on to the next group of animals...so there was a lot of driving, stopping, etc.. My personal opinion...and it's worth what you paid for it....[G]...is that the 'need' for some super telephoto should be tempered by the cost of one of those big guns, plus the real need for a tripod...along with the time it takes to set one up....etc. Do I really like long lenses....absolutely....but my experience has been that when you look at the 'cost-benefit' factor, they just aren't worth the effort to lug them along on a safari. That being said, and since I have not been on a photo trip to Namibia, maybe the conditions there are different... That's my two...or three...cents worth.

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May 30, 2018 14:42:27   #
3dees
 
if it's a choice between the two, I would get a Sigma or Tamron 150-600mm. no need for the tc. I do agree that a second body would be best if you can swing both.

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May 30, 2018 20:22:10   #
maryo Loc: Santa fe
 
Everyone mentions that a teleconverter looses sharpness so I haven't purchased one. What have those of you with a teleconverter experienced.

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May 30, 2018 20:55:21   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Barb...My friend Benno indicated 300mm would be long enough, esp. since you should be able to crop since you're using a ff camera. However, he did recommend using a teleconverter, so that 100-400 L may be a good purchase. I doubt that a teleconverter would work well with your 70-300.

Benno made a youtube video of the photos he took on his Namibia trip. You might be interested in them. It will take about 3 minutes to get to the wildlife preserve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3tNxZ03LWg

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May 30, 2018 21:04:18   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Normally, I’d go for the long lens. A new body is at most two days out with Amazon Prime and sufficient funds to buy it. In Namibia, not so much. Especially considering weather and environmental risks.

Get the backup body. If #1 screws up on a once in a lifetime shoot, you’ll thank me. If it doesn’t, your opportunity costs will still be low.

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May 30, 2018 21:12:07   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
On LONG trips, it makes a lot of sense to have a back-up camera and lens !

If you plan on selling your images or larger prints, use the 5D with 100-400 II and with extender in good light. In lower light, drop the extender and CROP using well applied software pixel enlargement if necessary.

If not selling images/prints, I would be very tempted to get a Sony RX10 IV - at least as a back-up - and/or have FUN !

5D = work - NEEDS 100-400 +

crop frame = some work/some fun - even with 70-300 L and cropping. - consider 80D

Sony rx10 = fun
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On LONG trips, it makes a lot of sense to have a b... (show quote)



For low budget, put a 1.4X behind your 70-300 L on the 5D - yes it will work - fine.

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May 30, 2018 21:18:49   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
imagemeister wrote:
For low budget, put a 1.4X behind your 70-300 L on the 5D - yes it will work - fine.

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As long as you get the second body...

Good idea.

Andy "Belt and Suspenders" H

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May 30, 2018 21:35:50   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
AndyH wrote:
As long as you get the second body...

Good idea.

Andy "Belt and Suspenders" H



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May 31, 2018 00:19:46   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
smeggy wrote:
Everyone mentions that a teleconverter looses sharpness so I haven't purchased one. What have those of you with a teleconverter experienced.


I own the Canon 100-400L and the 1.4x III teleconverter, when the light is good the sharpness loss is so small 90% of people would not notice it.

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May 31, 2018 00:58:47   #
jdub82 Loc: Northern California
 
When traveling in Africa, traveling lighter is better. I would recommend getting the longer lens instead of taking two DSLRS. Especially if you are going anywhere in Namibia other than a Safari, or staying any length of time, you won't want to carry two large DSLRS with you everywhere you go. Expensive cameras and lenses can't be safely left in a hotel room or in a vehicle in Africa. You will literally need to carry your equipment on your person everywhere you go. If you do decide to take a backup camera, a point and shoot with a zoom would be a reasonably lightweight backup to carry with you, along with your 5D Mark IV DSLR. I went on an extended humanitarian/mission trip to Kenya last summer. Since it was an extended trip, and not just a Safari, I took my Canon SX50 Bridge Camera as my primary camera and used my phone as my backup camera. I got some great pictures with the SX50 on Safari while we were in Kenya. I would imagine with a 5D Mark IV and the Canon 100-400 version II, you will get some amazing shots!

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