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May 28, 2018 13:38:58   #
mjmgka
 
Would love to go with the A7II or A7III but after buying the camera body, I couldn’t get a lens.
Would like to keep the cost at 2000 with something like a 25ish to 135ish lens. After that I can
buy accessories as I get more comfortable with the system.

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May 28, 2018 13:43:19   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Look at the used prices of a A7II rated EX on online places like KEH.com. That rating is as good as new, without a box.

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May 28, 2018 13:52:01   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
OR a 6DII and whichever L zoom comes in the kit. Or a Sony A7II or A7III and lens. There's a lot of full-frame quality choices w/ lens around 24MP and $2K, including a D610.


The D610 is a bad choice now because it's actually more expensive than the D750 if you want the 24-120mm lens with it.

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May 28, 2018 13:58:44   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
mjmgka wrote:
Many years ago, I was into photography, had several Canons AE1, A1 & F1 cameras, even had a Bronica medium format, As well as a full color darkroom. The it seems like life got in the way and I got more into the high end Canon point and shoots.
Now I have been thinking about getting into my old hobby and been searching around. I was trying to keep my initial costs down to a maximum of $2000. So after reading around, I decided to go with an APS-C dslr, being a former Canon camera buff, I decided on the Canon 80D.
This is where the dilemma starts. I went to a local camera store and the salesman started talking me into the Sony A6500. I really like most of the features of the Sony, but see there are some drawbacks, one such being overheating.
So I wonder should I go with the Canon 80D the Sony A6500 or maybe wait and see what the next gen Sony 6700 turns out to be?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, even open to a different system as long as the initial setup is within my budget.
Many years ago, I was into photography, had severa... (show quote)


Canon has a legacy program. They may give you a discount on a new Canon camera, Call Canon service and inquire

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May 28, 2018 13:59:42   #
tbsteph Loc: Ohio
 
Your budget will allow you to purchase a good system. Impossible to make any recommendations without knowing your intended use (landscape, portraiture, etc.). Are you concerned about the size of the camera and lenses? How about video? FWIW, you may find a Canon camera a bit easier to use initially since you have owned several other Canon cameras and used their menu systems, etc. (Boy do I remember my A1. Thought I had died and gone to heaven.) Good luck!

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May 28, 2018 14:21:08   #
mjmgka
 
Mostly would like to take pictures of cars, buildings and some landscape.
Video is a definite advantage, but not extremely necessary.
I would be taking this on vacations, that is what got me interested in the
Sony systems.
I am starting completely over, as all of my old equipment is far gone.

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May 28, 2018 14:55:53   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Right now B&H is selling a Nikon refurbished D500 for $1500 body only, which leaves 500 for a lens. You could do a lot worse

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May 28, 2018 16:15:05   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
The first decision is APS or full frame. We chose APS for reasons of cost, weight, and size. I’ve made prints up to 16x20 that are the equal or better than any of my old 35mm enlargements. We gave up some low light performance, weatherproofing, and a bit of enlargement capacity, but ee’re Well satisfied nearly two years in. The good part is that we have two complete outfits, with six decent lenses, bags, flashes, and other gear for that identical $2,000 budget. The IQ of the system is great in our opinion and the versatility is excellent. Do we sacrifice some IQ? Certainly, especially in low light.

There are some great FF options within your price range, too, as you don’t need two full setups.

Let us follow your progress! It’s fun to follow other folks’ photographic journeys. 👍

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May 28, 2018 16:24:54   #
canon Lee
 
mjmgka wrote:
Many years ago, I was into photography, had several Canons AE1, A1 & F1 cameras, even had a Bronica medium format, As well as a full color darkroom. The it seems like life got in the way and I got more into the high end Canon point and shoots.
Now I have been thinking about getting into my old hobby and been searching around. I was trying to keep my initial costs down to a maximum of $2000. So after reading around, I decided to go with an APS-C dslr, being a former Canon camera buff, I decided on the Canon 80D.
This is where the dilemma starts. I went to a local camera store and the salesman started talking me into the Sony A6500. I really like most of the features of the Sony, but see there are some drawbacks, one such being overheating.
So I wonder should I go with the Canon 80D the Sony A6500 or maybe wait and see what the next gen Sony 6700 turns out to be?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, even open to a different system as long as the initial setup is within my budget.
Many years ago, I was into photography, had severa... (show quote)


Your decision should also consider what type of photography you are into... Hobby or commercial. Both should have their separate budgets.... I do photography for a living full time, events, weddings, sports clubs, corporate head and shoulders as well... I have been using my Canon 7D, the best value in a camera, and suitable for commercial work.. I don't buy equipment for how much it costs but equipment that fits the job... So far its been over 10 yrs with my 7D, and still going.... For 2 grand you can really have great camera body and lenses..

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May 28, 2018 16:34:45   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Since you were big into high end point and shoots and also use to Canon I strongly recommend the EOS M50. It uses pretty much the same sensor as the 80D, has the newest digic 8 processor, has a variegated tilt screen, does 4K video and with an EF to EF-M adapter, will work with all of Canon's EF and EF-S lenses and you can pick up some nice used lenses, especially EF-S, for pretty reasonable prices.
I have an 80D and several other Canon and Nikon cameras, including the M50, so I know what I'm talking about. The M50 is a really nice, affordable, feature packed camera, and with a pancake lens, will even fit in jacket pockets.

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May 28, 2018 16:44:28   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
mjmgka wrote:
Many years ago, I was into photography, had several Canons AE1, A1 & F1 cameras, even had a Bronica medium format, As well as a full color darkroom. The it seems like life got in the way and I got more into the high end Canon point and shoots.
Now I have been thinking about getting into my old hobby and been searching around. I was trying to keep my initial costs down to a maximum of $2000. So after reading around, I decided to go with an APS-C dslr, being a former Canon camera buff, I decided on the Canon 80D.
This is where the dilemma starts. I went to a local camera store and the salesman started talking me into the Sony A6500. I really like most of the features of the Sony, but see there are some drawbacks, one such being overheating.
So I wonder should I go with the Canon 80D the Sony A6500 or maybe wait and see what the next gen Sony 6700 turns out to be?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, even open to a different system as long as the initial setup is within my budget.
Many years ago, I was into photography, had severa... (show quote)


The Canon 80D is an excellent camera, and if you had Canon A or T series cameras - I have an AE-1 and a T90 - there is much that will be familiar to you, but much that is not since technology has progressed so much. If you have a bunch of old FL/FD/FDn lenses they will be hard to use on the 80D. It can be done, and I do, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you are a masochist! On the other hand if you like Canon and have old lenses then a mirrorless such as the EOS M50 might be a good choice. I like some of the old manual focus Canon lenses and have several modified to work on EOS DSLRs, I have an EOS Rebel T3i mounted with a modified FDn 135mm f/2.0 sitting on my desk right now, could also be the 80D, but this stuff can get complicated. PM me if you think I may be able to help.

If you don't have old lenses, then you can start over. Nothing wrong with Sony, or Fuji or other brands, it's really just a question of a quality brand that appeals to you.

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May 28, 2018 16:45:01   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
mjmgka wrote:
Mostly would like to take pictures of cars, buildings and some landscape.
Video is a definite advantage, but not extremely necessary.
I would be taking this on vacations, that is what got me interested in the
Sony systems.
I am starting completely over, as all of my old equipment is far gone.

If you really do mean that you are interested in video and travel, as well as great still photography, you should put Panasonic's mirrorless M4/3 cameras on your list.

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May 28, 2018 16:52:07   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
bsprague wrote:
If you really do mean that you are interested in video and travel, as well as great still photography, you should put Panasonic's mirrorless M4/3 cameras on your list.


Yes. Starting over provides so many degrees of freedom. We have a new generation of cameras coming, and much as I am a Canon user for personal reasons, and I am very impressed with the 80D, it is still old school technology in some regards.

I'm not ready for mirrorless yet for legacy reasons, but you may be. Do look at Fuji, Panasonic, Olympus, Sony and others.

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May 28, 2018 18:43:12   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
One of your main considerations should be what type of shooting you intend. Lots of considerations, but several key ones are: (1) how much "fast action" shooting you intend (sports, birds-in-flight, etc) - that will drive your auto focus performance requirements. (2) how much indoor, low light, non flash shooting you intend. Larger sensors will provide better low light, high ISO performance. Full frame is best, APS-C next, and M43 next - each about 1 stop better than the next smaller size. (3) size and weight - as you go up in sensor size, weight and size increases. There are other considerstions such as features (and always price), but those are the compromises involved.

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May 28, 2018 19:43:10   #
BebuLamar
 
If you like the viewfinder of a mirrorless camera then I think it's the way to go. The OP may like the Sony for the same reasons I wouldn't want the Sony. It has way to many features that are useless to me and confusing as well.

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