Confused and overwhelmed
May 28, 2018 09:17:30 #
Many years ago, I was into photography, had several Canons AE1, A1 & F1 cameras, even had a Bronica medium format, As well as a full color darkroom. The it seems like life got in the way and I got more into the high end Canon point and shoots.
Now I have been thinking about getting into my old hobby and been searching around. I was trying to keep my initial costs down to a maximum of $2000. So after reading around, I decided to go with an APS-C dslr, being a former Canon camera buff, I decided on the Canon 80D.
This is where the dilemma starts. I went to a local camera store and the salesman started talking me into the Sony A6500. I really like most of the features of the Sony, but see there are some drawbacks, one such being overheating.
So I wonder should I go with the Canon 80D the Sony A6500 or maybe wait and see what the next gen Sony 6700 turns out to be?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, even open to a different system as long as the initial setup is within my budget.
Now I have been thinking about getting into my old hobby and been searching around. I was trying to keep my initial costs down to a maximum of $2000. So after reading around, I decided to go with an APS-C dslr, being a former Canon camera buff, I decided on the Canon 80D.
This is where the dilemma starts. I went to a local camera store and the salesman started talking me into the Sony A6500. I really like most of the features of the Sony, but see there are some drawbacks, one such being overheating.
So I wonder should I go with the Canon 80D the Sony A6500 or maybe wait and see what the next gen Sony 6700 turns out to be?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, even open to a different system as long as the initial setup is within my budget.
May 28, 2018 09:22:22 #
May 28, 2018 09:27:31 #
The D5600 is a Nikon. A big difference between the Nikon D5600 and Sony A6500 are the viewfinders. The D5600 has an optical pentamirror viewfinder. The Sony A6500 has an electronic viewfinder. You might want to rent first to see which one you prefer. LensRental.com is a great place to rent.
If you go with a Nikon D7xxx series or above camera, you get a pentaprism viewfinder. The glass prism inside gives a larger, slightly brighter view through the viewfinder.
If you go with a Nikon D7xxx series or above camera, you get a pentaprism viewfinder. The glass prism inside gives a larger, slightly brighter view through the viewfinder.
May 28, 2018 09:29:47 #
You might want to investigate lens adapters first. That is, if you still have your Canon lenses from your film cameras. There are adapters to mount them on Sony cameras. Old glass on digital is fun. Check it out.
May 28, 2018 09:32:11 #
Do you mean a Nikon D5600?
I don'y know about the over-heating problem with the Sony, but I really like the saturation my Sony H1 yields. So if their image capturing system is similar...
Get the one that you feel most comfortable holding and will meet you needs the best.
Can you trust the camera guy to be objective? Sometimes they will push something for a reason, whether it's they like it or spiffs.
I don'y know about the over-heating problem with the Sony, but I really like the saturation my Sony H1 yields. So if their image capturing system is similar...
Get the one that you feel most comfortable holding and will meet you needs the best.
Can you trust the camera guy to be objective? Sometimes they will push something for a reason, whether it's they like it or spiffs.
May 28, 2018 09:33:50 #
The Sony A6500 is a $1100 body so it should be compared to the Nikon D7500. Besides you mixed up Canon and Nikon so I think you need to straigthen out the model number first.
May 28, 2018 09:41:14 #
Let’s first define what type of shooting you like and intend to do - landscapes, family/children, birds in flight, sports, etc... Then we can make some useful recommendations.
May 28, 2018 09:42:09 #
I would go with a full frame camera, where multiple options fall inside your budget, whether shopping new or used, although they would deplete your budget toward lenses.
May 28, 2018 09:42:54 #
It's good that you're taking the time to research before you commit. You'll get as many opinions as there are photographers, and not all of them will be unbiased. Brick and mortar salespeople may be biased if they receive bonuses or incentives, or may just be enthusiastic about their own preferences and think they're right for all. I find this especially true of young people in stores, FWIW, but that's just my opinion. Try convincing a Bernie Sanders supporter to switch to Trump or vice versa - it's a piece of cake compared to the brand loyalty some shooters and salespeople demonstrate. You'll find totally opposite opinions and advice on the Hog as well - and expressed by people who are great photographers and gear experts.
I've also observed that some pros and advanced amateurs seem to think you will eventually want a $20,000 outfit and can afford one, eventually, so you might as well start now. I do think that borrowing and trying out gear is a great idea; there are some bodies and lenses that just don't "Feel" right for whatever reasons, and that's unlikely to go away. Don't pay for features if you don't really want them (GPS, WiFi, touch screens, etc.... in our case) and IMHO, I don't think it's necessary to wait for the latest and greatest innovations. Some prophets have been saying that the optical DSLR is dead at the hands of mirrorless, and they've been saying it for a few years now. I may not live long enough to see it - the patient is still breathing.
My wife and I followed the same path from film, through p&s and bridge, and finally to DSLRs. We set a budget, didn't hesitate to buy used, and took advantage of bargains as they appeared. Don't forget to reserve funds for flashes, bags, and other assorted gear.
Here's how we assembled a basic APS outfit for two on a $2,000 budget. It's OUR path alone, you should feel liberated to pick and prioritized based on your preferences, not constrained by what so-called experts recommend. The priorities for someone who wants to shoot wildlife are entirely different from one who likes landscapes and street photography.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-526467-1.html
Best,
Andy
I've also observed that some pros and advanced amateurs seem to think you will eventually want a $20,000 outfit and can afford one, eventually, so you might as well start now. I do think that borrowing and trying out gear is a great idea; there are some bodies and lenses that just don't "Feel" right for whatever reasons, and that's unlikely to go away. Don't pay for features if you don't really want them (GPS, WiFi, touch screens, etc.... in our case) and IMHO, I don't think it's necessary to wait for the latest and greatest innovations. Some prophets have been saying that the optical DSLR is dead at the hands of mirrorless, and they've been saying it for a few years now. I may not live long enough to see it - the patient is still breathing.
My wife and I followed the same path from film, through p&s and bridge, and finally to DSLRs. We set a budget, didn't hesitate to buy used, and took advantage of bargains as they appeared. Don't forget to reserve funds for flashes, bags, and other assorted gear.
Here's how we assembled a basic APS outfit for two on a $2,000 budget. It's OUR path alone, you should feel liberated to pick and prioritized based on your preferences, not constrained by what so-called experts recommend. The priorities for someone who wants to shoot wildlife are entirely different from one who likes landscapes and street photography.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-526467-1.html
Best,
Andy
May 28, 2018 09:52:23 #
BebuLamar wrote:
The Sony A6500 is a $1100 body so it should be compared to the Nikon D7500. Besides you mixed up Canon and Nikon so I think you need to straigthen out the model number first.
Sorry, I screwed that up. I meant to say the Canon 80D not D5600. I have since fixed my post.
And, I do believe the camera store that I went to is involved heavily with Sony.
May 28, 2018 09:55:05 #
I actually meant the Canon 80D, got a bit messed up as I did briefly look at the Nikon D5600.
May 28, 2018 10:16:29 #
"Many years ago, I was into photography, had several Canons AE1, A1 & F1 cameras, even had a Bronica medium format, As well as a full color darkroom. The it seems like life got in the way and I got more into the high end Canon point and shoots. "
mjmgka,
Welcome to this forum!
Change Canon to Nikon and Bonica to Mamiya and it is me! The color darkroom too!
Be sure to keep enough of your $2000 budget for a Canon Pro-100 printer (about $130 after rebates) and a $10/month Lightroom subscription. Then buy ANY Canon, Nikon, Sony, Panasonic, Olympus or Fuji camera. They are all great. There just aren't any bad cameras on the market. They are different, yes. Once you're past the camera decision (assuming you have a computer) you will get to begin to amaze yourself with how Lightroom and a printer can do better than you ever could do in the darkroom!
My Lightroom years have been far more fun and productive than my darkroom years.
mjmgka,
Welcome to this forum!
Change Canon to Nikon and Bonica to Mamiya and it is me! The color darkroom too!
Be sure to keep enough of your $2000 budget for a Canon Pro-100 printer (about $130 after rebates) and a $10/month Lightroom subscription. Then buy ANY Canon, Nikon, Sony, Panasonic, Olympus or Fuji camera. They are all great. There just aren't any bad cameras on the market. They are different, yes. Once you're past the camera decision (assuming you have a computer) you will get to begin to amaze yourself with how Lightroom and a printer can do better than you ever could do in the darkroom!
My Lightroom years have been far more fun and productive than my darkroom years.
May 28, 2018 10:47:15 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
I would go with a full frame camera, where multiple options fall inside your budget, whether shopping new or used, although they would deplete your budget toward lenses.
With a $2000 budget the OP could go for the D750 kit with the 24-120mm lens. Unless the OP like the Sony.
May 28, 2018 12:35:34 #
BebuLamar wrote:
With a $2000 budget the OP could go for the D750 kit with the 24-120mm lens. Unless the OP like the Sony.
An excellent choice! Or a lightly used Canon 5D3 plus a 24-105L
May 28, 2018 12:47:15 #
OR a 6DII and whichever L zoom comes in the kit. Or a Sony A7II or A7III and lens. There's a lot of full-frame quality choices w/ lens around 24MP and $2K, including a D610.
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