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Jul 28, 2012 11:37:56   #
Festus Loc: North Dakota
 
I purchased one many years ago and it is probably very difficult to find now in the days of digital. A little device used to be available that you could slide into the film canister and hook onto the film ratches and pull the film leader out of the canister. Worked perfectly 100% of the time. Good luck in finding one.

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Jul 28, 2012 13:41:14   #
THEMRED7007
 
Seems to me that one time someone suggested opening a paper clip, take the end and bend a very small tip @ 90°, or "L" shape...as small a tip as possible. Insert and "fish". Hope this helps. I , too processed my B/W 35mm.
MR.ED

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Jul 28, 2012 14:00:05   #
ALYN Loc: Lebanon, Indiana
 
Been there--done that.
Try handrolling it back. You MAY get lucky and the leader will slip out--Maybe. Use an old "churchkey" bottle opener and open the cannister--CAREFULLY.Pull the leader out--then reassemble.
The film SHOULD be none the worse for wear.
Lottsa Luck. ALYN

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Jul 28, 2012 14:27:37   #
jbcarm Loc: Nor-Cal
 
The same thing happened to me.
I just went in a dark room and
pryed open the cannister a little
and fished out the leader and re-loaded
the film.I just dropped it off to be
developed so I'm not sure how it will come out.probably
the 1st few frames will be over exposed.I'll let you know how it comes out....

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Jul 28, 2012 17:29:09   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
billypip wrote:
I recently went on a shoot with a 36 exp roll of film, b/w to be specific. I got really Artsy and nailed composition on most shots, much to the bemusement of passers-by haha but anyway, I walked home full of anticipation and expectation you get with film only to discover the film leader hadnt engaged with the take-up spool......what a d...k !! My question to you film guys....... is it ok to run the film through again and if so, how do i get the leader back out of the cannister as i have wound it fully in. Please feel free to laugh your arse off before offering advice.
I recently went on a shoot with a 36 exp roll of f... (show quote)


Yes. I still have my old changing bag. I used to use it for loading film in my film holders for my old press camera. I will never give give it up. You never know when when you might have to load 35mm into a developing tank if theres no darkroom handy. I also have that old tank. I guess you might say Im a horder.

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Jul 28, 2012 17:51:46   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
In the old days we and what was called a black bag or film changing bag
It was black, had two entry holes like sleeves, with elastic cuffs for your hands. At the base it had a double zippered opening, inside one was black rubberized, with zipper, outside one was black cloth, with zipper.
It's original purpose was to load your film tanks with zero light reaching the film.

I'll find you a web site

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Jul 28, 2012 18:02:30   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
Hi Hal81 and all the rest of you, who've been there,


Yes I had kept my bag forever but in AZ, the rubberized inner got hard as a rock and that was that. Amazon ahas a slew of them , one as high as $80.00 ( must be pure gold! ) In the film days you wouldn't leave home without it. I still have a lot of nikor and kinderman S/S tanks, with the speed loaders for both 120 and 35mm. In the 60's and 70's who knew the world would go digital!

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Jul 28, 2012 19:48:07   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
I used to have the same problem. I kept a retrieval tool with me that you may be able to buy.
METHOD - rewind the film while it's still in the camera until you reckon the film is all back in the container. Remove the film roll in full daylight - that keeps it simple, eh?
Now - the REMOVAL TOOL (film tongue grabber) is flat with 2 strips of plastic in it which can be protruded by use of a little slider. One is longer than the other and both are curved (as the film in the container is because it has been stored in a roll). Slide these into the canister and then rewind the film slowly by hand listening for the click of the film riding over the first tongue and landing on the 2nd one. If you don't get it right just do another revolution, When you've got it right use the slider to push the short tongue forward (into the roll) and this will have the end of the film grabbed with pressure. Now pull the extractor out and the end of the film with it. That'll take you about 27 seconds - it took a day-and-a half to say how.

We used to change to a different roll part-way through one, writing the number of exposures taken on the partly-used one. We could change between colour and b/w or different ISOs at will by doing this - all with the one camera! Reload the used film and, with the cap on the lens, reshoot the exposed frames and you're back in business! After removing the lens cap that is!

Hope you can get one!
Mike

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Jul 28, 2012 21:17:14   #
bullfrogs Loc: Chico, Calif.
 
Talking Film,,,,,I just came from the local Nick Nack shop where I purchased two each, Rolls of Kodak film labeled, Eastman Color Negative ASA 100, 35mm 20 exp 1973 in an Aluminum canister. Probably Reloads. But interesting
Bullfrogs

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Jul 28, 2012 21:23:50   #
twowindsbear
 
bullfrogs wrote:
Talking Film,,,,,I just came from the local Nick Nack shop where I purchased two each, Rolls of Kodak film labeled, Eastman Color Negative ASA 100, 35mm 20 exp 1973 in an Aluminum canister. Probably Reloads. But interesting
Bullfrogs


Can you post a pic of the film cartridge?

Thanks

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Jul 28, 2012 21:37:42   #
bullfrogs Loc: Chico, Calif.
 
Here is the best I can do right now.
Bullfrogs

35mmFilm01
35mmFilm01...

35mmFilm02
35mmFilm02...

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Jul 28, 2012 21:55:05   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
the photo shows the bottom isn't crimped, meaning it's refillable. Back in the '70's people would buy bulk and load their own. It was done so if you shot a lot, you had the same batch. It was for the real purist or a real big shooter.

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Jul 28, 2012 22:47:16   #
bullfrogs Loc: Chico, Calif.
 
Thanks that is what I figured. It was dated 1973 and looks like a typed label.
Bullfrogs

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Jul 28, 2012 22:51:54   #
twowindsbear
 
But, looking at the film - it doesn't 'look' like color film. Seems to me that it's the wrong 'color' for color film.

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Jul 28, 2012 23:09:03   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
Got me! just went to the freezer, took a roll out. I do think it's Kodacolor.

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