35mm Film
Jul 27, 2012 15:19:15 #
I recently went on a shoot with a 36 exp roll of film, b/w to be specific. I got really Artsy and nailed composition on most shots, much to the bemusement of passers-by haha but anyway, I walked home full of anticipation and expectation you get with film only to discover the film leader hadnt engaged with the take-up spool......what a d...k !! My question to you film guys....... is it ok to run the film through again and if so, how do i get the leader back out of the cannister as i have wound it fully in. Please feel free to laugh your arse off before offering advice.
Jul 27, 2012 15:24:58 #
billypip wrote:
I recently went on a shoot with a 36 exp roll of f... (show quote)
Been there and done that! Don't feel bad.
I learned decades ago that if the advance film lever moved too smoothly I needed to stop, engage the film better, and sacrifice a few frames.
As to getting it back out of the canister once the lead has been drawn inside, yes it can be done.
The canister can be opened and the film recovered, but it requires total darkness.
And those 35mm canisters were not made for re-use without special resealing equipment to assure a light-tight seal.
But you used to be able to buy new empty canisters so you could "roll your own" using bulk film.
Ahh, those were the days my friend!
For just one roll of film, all this is too much trouble. I'd place it on a shelf for the memory and go out and do it again.
Sounds like you had a blast! And that's what it is all about.
Jul 27, 2012 15:25:56 #
I'm pretty certain you can use the film, provided you get that leader out again. I think years ago I read of someone who fished it out with a piece of tape. Don't feel too bad, there are still many of us who remember film and all the opportunities for mistakes it provided! Loading film was sometimes like wondering if the refrigerator light goes off when you close the door. How will you ever know? ;-)
Jul 27, 2012 15:52:52 #
thankyou....both responses made me giggle. I will have a go at getting the leader out but in case of failure..........I do have another roll, in this case, lesson learned and i know it will never happen again. The only downside to the other roll is i gotta attract all that attention again haha.
Jul 27, 2012 17:19:26 #
billypip wrote:
And you will enjoy every minute of it, especially armed with your past experience. thankyou....both responses made me giggle. I will have a go at getting the leader out but in case of failure..........I do have another roll, in this case, lesson learned and i know it will never happen again. The only downside to the other roll is i gotta attract all that attention again haha.
It all makes you better at what you enjoy doing.
Jul 27, 2012 17:29:24 #
thanks Fest...you are right. I look forward to posting results in near future.
Jul 27, 2012 18:53:20 #
billypip wrote:
I recently went on a shoot with a 36 exp roll of f... (show quote)
Here is what I use, I have 2 of them. One stays in my camera case and one stays in my Domke vest. Yes I still shoot film and that does happen. I have my Nikon F5 set so it rewinds the film and leaves the leader sticking out 1 inch, Nikon pro bodies would do that. Once I have removed the film from the body and have watched the counter so I can confirm it is actually rewinding, I manually wind that last inch inside the cartridge. Old habits die hard.
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Jul 27, 2012 21:25:25 #
Beowulf
Loc: Aquidneck Island, RI
Been some time since I last shot film, but this happened to me a few times over four decades of film use. Photo specialty shops used to have a fairly inexpensive flexible aluminum/steel film leader retriever gizmo, but I don't know that these are available nowadays.
Before owning one of these, I used to twirl the canister spool to tighten the film inside, insert a two inch or so piece of masking tape into the canister slot, adhesive side facing down and leaving a grippable lip outside. Then I would twirl the the spool the opposite way to loosen the film. One or two tries would usually catch the leader so that you can pull it out slowly and carefully.
Hope this works for you.
Before owning one of these, I used to twirl the canister spool to tighten the film inside, insert a two inch or so piece of masking tape into the canister slot, adhesive side facing down and leaving a grippable lip outside. Then I would twirl the the spool the opposite way to loosen the film. One or two tries would usually catch the leader so that you can pull it out slowly and carefully.
Hope this works for you.
Jul 27, 2012 21:35:14 #
kavin1957
Loc: Clinton Township
I would load the camera then lightly turn the rewind, with out pressing the release. Then every time you shoot the rewind knob should advance. If the rewind knob turns you know the film is advancing.
Jul 28, 2012 00:52:56 #
MT Shooter wrote:
quote=billypip I recently went on a shoot with a ... (show quote)
I totally agree. Ever though the only film I still shoot is medium format in large frame adapters, I cannot bring mysulf to throw away of my film retrieval tools. I have three different types, but the best by far is the thin cheap tin one MT Shooter recommends. (I think I keep them because I just know one day I'll find a Leica M6 at a price I can afford.)
Jul 28, 2012 01:42:47 #
thankyou all for your suggestions and i shall give your ideas a whirl.
Jul 28, 2012 03:19:54 #
billypip wrote:
I recently went on a shoot with a 36 exp roll of f... (show quote)
I had this happen more than once when I shot 35mm and the way I retreved the film leader was to take an old strip of exposed film from the end of a series of negatives or unwanted negatives and clip the sprocket hole at the side and away from the short end of the negative. pry up the outside edge of the sprocket hole edge so it will catch in sprocket holes of the unexposed film inside the cannester. Now slide the improvised film retrevier you just made into the film slot and fish out the leader. Sometimes it takes a few tries but it works.
Jul 28, 2012 04:00:24 #
Jul 28, 2012 06:22:37 #
bvm
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
I don't think anyone who has used a film camera hasn't done that.I went 2000 miles only to find out the roll didn't catch.
A sure fire way to check it is:
1.) on the first shot, watch to see if the rewind side moves.
2.) you can turn the rewind crank and feel for tautness.
In the future when you do rewind your film, try to leave a small amount out of the spool. And yes, in the good old days there was a tool used to pull some of the film out so you didn't have to destroy the container. By todays standards film ( B& W ) was inexpensive . Kodak would give 24 hr. service on slide film processing $2.25 / 36 exposure. From N,J, to Rochester and back in 24 hrs not bad. I think 20 expos. was $1.25
A sure fire way to check it is:
1.) on the first shot, watch to see if the rewind side moves.
2.) you can turn the rewind crank and feel for tautness.
In the future when you do rewind your film, try to leave a small amount out of the spool. And yes, in the good old days there was a tool used to pull some of the film out so you didn't have to destroy the container. By todays standards film ( B& W ) was inexpensive . Kodak would give 24 hr. service on slide film processing $2.25 / 36 exposure. From N,J, to Rochester and back in 24 hrs not bad. I think 20 expos. was $1.25
Jul 28, 2012 06:26:22 #
thanks bvm, i already loaded the 2nd roll and did as you suggested and all is well ! Now to get the leader out of the first roll.........................
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