kdogg Loc: Gallipolis Ferry WV

This has been a very long post with many of you Hoggers posting images (including myself) trying to make a case for B+W vs Color to no avail to convince the OP of the importance of B+W as a pursuit of photographic vision. I don't know about the rest of the community but for me I think we are beating a dead horse. The OP seems to be unshakeable in his beliefs and for me that is sad. A long time ago my father taught me a valuable lesson for my journey in life. you don't have to always agree with everyone on your journey through this life but it is better to try to understand a persons view and to accept it for what it is. Ultimately not everyone in this life will agree with our own point of view, but each is valid and worth exploring. This is how we as a people evolve and learn from each other. This is to say that neither point is invalid, but is the impetus for further discussion that will lead to the mutual understanding that we all have different points of view that should be explored and discussed without one party trying to belittle the other. This is the fundamental premise of civil debate. When the discussion degrades into a "he said she said" then we have lost our way. Everyone has an opinion and we should the as a society respect each other and debate our differences without debasing each other. If we keep this in mind as we discuss our differences this world will be a much beter place for all of us.

kdogg Loc: Gallipolis Ferry WV

PS. Be kind to one another my fellow Hoggers we are all in this journey of life together, no one get's out alive so enjoy the moments we together.

karno Loc: Chico ,California

Kindness is more important then black and white or color

Transbuff1985 Loc: east central Iowa

Very Well put kdogg. Your father was a very wise man. For myself I shoot B/W for certain situations, back in the 70's shot a ton of it, and I learned from it, and the results you could get with it.

frangeo Loc: Texas

B/W touches the soul of the image. As was replied by others, if you have to ask, don't bother.

Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada

Who asked you?

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

It depends why you take pictures. My guiding mantra is "Photograph today before tomorrow comes and everything changes" - from my perspective, my photographs are not 'art' - they are a record of today.

Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada

To me, photographs tells a story.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

On that we can agree.

srt101fan

And some are told better in black and white.....

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

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Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

“When you photograph people in color, you photograph their clothes. But when you photograph people in Black and white, you photograph their souls!”

-Ted Grant

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

I think that's about the third time that quote has been posted on this thread, but I'm not sure I buy it. I shot B&W film and did my own darkroom work for many years, and I'm a big fan of classic B&W photography. But I think if a portrait photographer is skilled enough to reveal a subject's soul, he could probably do it in B&W or color.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Agree.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

When I was in high school, they took all yearbook pictures in B&W, but used pastels to color the 'senior pictures' they sold to parents. So, how did that work? Did they slip soul into colored pictures because they started with B&W or did they take the soul out of all the pictures somehow? And on the same subject, would drivers license pictures automatically improve if the hack at the BMV took them in B&W??