boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
Why is it that companies don't make zoom lenses that don't creep. Since all zooming is manual anyway why can't theyjust make zooming a little tighter. I would think that a "no creep" lens would be a good marketing thing. Maybe lens creep is a "creepy" name, all they would have to do is call the new build the "no slide" update. Charge a couple hundred more for the mark 2 version.
boberic wrote:
Why is it that companies don't make zoom lenses that don't creep. Since all zooming is manual anyway why can't theyjust make zooming a little tighter. I would think that a "no creep" lens would be a good marketing thing. Maybe lens creep is a "creepy" name, all they would have to do is call the new build the "no slide" update. Charge a couple hundred more for the mark 2 version.
I have the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8, the 70-200 f/2.8, and the 200-500. All quality glass. None creep. I guess you get what you pay for?
Good question. I have a Canon EF 24-105 1.4L IS USM that "creeps" and it drives me nuts.
boberic wrote:
Why is it that companies don't make zoom lenses that don't creep. Since all zooming is manual anyway why can't theyjust make zooming a little tighter. I would think that a "no creep" lens would be a good marketing thing. Maybe lens creep is a "creepy" name, all they would have to do is call the new build the "no slide" update. Charge a couple hundred more for the mark 2 version.
Most Mfgrs make zooms with a zoom lock, but usually lock only at the wide end and not where you left off. Some, like Sony's 100-400mm have a tension adjustment from loose to tight which gives you what you want at all zoom levels.... 👍
That is what you sacrifice in cost of lens. Most quality lens do not have that problem but cost competitive is the factor here. Do we want to pay more or have less quality?
Cheap rubber bands will fix that. Unsightly, but effective.
Canon 100-400mm II has a means of changing the tension on the zoom from "loose" to "tight" enough that it can't creep. But I find when using it to shoot sports or any other sort of action, I prefer it set pretty loose... and then it creeps. The stronger setting that prevents the lens from extending under its own weight while being carried is too tight for fast action.
The BEST solution is to get an Internal Focusing/Internal Zooming lens! Among others, all of the Canon 70-200s are IF/IZ. No creep possible with those! Of course, IF/IZ lenses cost more... compare an EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM for around $1100 to a non-IF/IZ EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM II for about $500, for example. That $600 difference will buy a lot of rubber bands!
(Yes, yes, I know there are other reasons to spend more for the 70-200mm instead!) However, IF/IZ lenses are necessarily larger and usually heavier too. '
I'm sure the Nikkor 70-200s are the same... IF/IZ.
And I know the Nikkor 200-500mm is IF, but not IZ. It extends with zooming... However it has a zoom lock to prevent zoom creep. AFAIK, this is not a zoom tension adjustment like that on the Canon 100-400 II.... but simply an off/on lock when the lens is set to it's shortest 200mm.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
boberic wrote:
Why is it that companies don't make zoom lenses that don't creep. Since all zooming is manual anyway why can't theyjust make zooming a little tighter. I would think that a "no creep" lens would be a good marketing thing. Maybe lens creep is a "creepy" name, all they would have to do is call the new build the "no slide" update. Charge a couple hundred more for the mark 2 version.
My pro zooms don't creep. My consumer grade zooms all crept. The Tamron and Sigma 150-600 have detents to keep them from creeping. My suggestion is to pay a little more $$$ and get lenses that don't creep, or spend $5 and get a lens band that gets attached to the lens, partly on the barrel and partly on the zoom ring - cheap and very effective solution to lens creep.
boberic wrote:
Why is it that companies don't make zoom lenses that don't creep. Since all zooming is manual anyway why can't theyjust make zooming a little tighter. I would think that a "no creep" lens would be a good marketing thing. Maybe lens creep is a "creepy" name, all they would have to do is call the new build the "no slide" update. Charge a couple hundred more for the mark 2 version.
I have many zoom lenses that don't creep! (I only use zoom lenses that don't creep)!!
BHC
Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
1. Lenses that don't creep are often so tight they are hard to zoom.
2. I don't walk around with my zooms extended; I retract and lock them.
3. I don't let my heavier lenses hang down. That puts them at an odd angle that stresses the mount.
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
Many Canon zooms (such as the 100-400L) have a tension adjustment to prevent creep.
amfoto1 wrote:
Canon 100-400mm II has a means of changing the tension on the zoom from "loose" to "tight" enough that it can't creep. But I find when using it to shoot sports or any other sort of action, I prefer it set pretty loose... and then it creeps. The stronger setting that prevents the lens from extending under its own weight while being carried is too tight for fast action.
The BEST solution is to get an Internal Focusing/Internal Zooming lens! Among others, all of the Canon 70-200s are IF/IZ. No creep possible with those! Of course, IF/IZ lenses cost more... compare an EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM for around $1100 to a non-IF/IZ EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM II for about $500, for example. That $600 difference will buy a lot of rubber bands!
(Yes, yes, I know there are other reasons to spend more for the 70-200mm instead!) However, IF/IZ lenses are necessarily larger and usually heavier too. '
I'm sure the Nikkor 70-200s are the same... IF/IZ.
And I know the Nikkor 200-500mm is IF, but not IZ. It extends with zooming... However it has a zoom lock to prevent zoom creep. AFAIK, this is not a zoom tension adjustment like that on the Canon 100-400 II.... but simply an off/on lock when the lens is set to it's shortest 200mm.
Canon 100-400mm II has a means of changing the ten... (
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For the record the EF 70-300 II has a zoom lock. It is a welcome addition.
I have been using zoom lenses since 1972, my first was a Vivitar 70-210 Series 1 macro zoom, and have never had one creep. All have been quality lenses, never a kit lens. Either I was lucky or I paid for what I got.
boberic wrote:
Why is it that companies don't make zoom lenses that don't creep. Since all zooming is manual anyway why can't theyjust make zooming a little tighter. I would think that a "no creep" lens would be a good marketing thing. Maybe lens creep is a "creepy" name, all they would have to do is call the new build the "no slide" update. Charge a couple hundred more for the mark 2 version.
For what it's worth, my old Minolta and newer Sony zooms do not creep. Maybe that's something that can be adjusted by a repair shop (?)
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