iamimdoc wrote:
I use a Nikon D200. > 10 years old. Works fine
I am a competent amateur. Shoot for fun. Display photos on an 8 X 10 digital picture frame in my office for folks to look at (MD office)
Any prints I make anymore (rare) are 8X10 or less
No sports
No video
Do some pics of grandchild but mainly I do photo on travels (go to the UK for family), flowers, landscape, architecture, some macro work
Does spending up to $2000.00 (or less) for a new camera get me anything for what I do?
My sense is that this is money not well.
Thanks
I use a Nikon D200. > 10 years old. Works fine ... (
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Normally I'd say "No"... put your money into lenses.
But D200 was Nikon's last camera to use a CCD sensor. The newer models all use CMOS which makes possible MUCH higher ISO capable and for considerably nicer images overall. A friend of mine who I worked with a lot used a pair of D200 (after using D90 before, I think) and often got upset how much better my images from cheaper, less "pro" oriented Canon were at one to two stop higher ISOs than she ever dared to use. She was one of the first people standing in line to upgrade to a pair of D300 when they came available.. traded in her D200s and never looked back!. With only a very modest upgrade to the D300s, those models saw an unusually long (for a DSLR) model "life"... about eight years. Finally Nikon introduced D500 with a lot of major improvements (AF system, images, speed, etc.)
All camera manufacturers have largely abandoned CCD sensors... first in their higher end models, now in all DSLRs, most medium format... in favor of CMOS (following Canon's lead, BTW... they committed to CMOS only with their first in-house built models back in the early 2000s and created their own sensor production facility). You now only find CCD like your D200 uses in cheaper point-n-shoot and cell phone cameras.
In addition to the different and much better type of sensor, the D200 is a 12-bit camera, while the newer models can do both 12-bit (if you need to conserve memory card space, because you didn't buy and bring enough cards), they also can shoot 14-bit. This makes for much better color rendition. Difference might be minimal or pretty subtle in some situations, but can be more dramatic and noticeable in others. Basically... a 12-bit file has about 4000 tonalities per color channel (red, green & blue or RGB), or a palette of around 64
billion possible colors and tones (4000 x 4000 x 4000). Sounds like a lot, but 14-bit has 4 times as many with over 16,000 per color channel, or a palette of more than 4
trillion colors and tones (which is what? 64X as many?!)
D200 was a ground-breaking camera... it bought pro-grade build and performance to a much more affordable level than ever before (and it forced Canon and others to make some serious changes to
their camera line-ups, so eventually helped all of us whether we used Nikon or not). But it's day is long past and there have been many significant improvements to DSLRs in they years since..
So, in your case.... YES, I'd say it's time for a camera upgrade. I'm quite confident you WILL see the difference and find it to be money well-spent.
It doesn't need to cost $2000, though. In fact, a D7200 with a 24MP CMOS sensor (more than double the resolution of your 10MP D200) would be a BIG step up in image quality in many respects, and out perform your D200 in many other ways... costing right around $1000 right now. For what you say your shoot, that would be a wonderful camera. Plus it would leave a lot of money for a nice new lens or something else you might need or want. D500 (also well under $2000 at about $1600 right now) is a great choice for sports/action with it's higher performance autofocus, more "pro grade" build/sealing and very fast frame rate. But that model is actually a little lower resolution than the D7200 (21MP versus 24MP). And the D7200 has a very good AF system, too... It's more than adequate for all you mention wanting to shoot.
I am not recommending the newer D7500 as highly because in spite of some upgrades (4K video, faster frame rate), in order to shoot faster, buffer more images and use even higher ISO than the D7200, it's also been "downgraded" to the same 21MP sensor as the D500. That's a very good sensor, but why spend more (about $1250) for lower resolution just to get other features you say you don't need or want? For you, I really think the D7200 makes more sense.
There are cheaper D3000 and D5000-series Nikon that would also give considerably better IQ than D200. But these models are not able to autofocus a lot of earlier and even current Nikkor lenses, which D7000 series and higher models can. If you have any of those Nikkors already in your kit (also some Tokina lenses)... or want to be able to use them in the future..... stick with D7200 and higher models. Those can autofocus both the lenses with built-in motor such as AF-S and AF-P AND the older style which rely on a motor in the camera body to drive the AF with no motor in the lens itself. The D5000/D3000 series also cannot meter or auto expose properly with some of the vintage manual focus lenses that used mechanical means of aperture control. The D7200 can.
All the above that I'm recommending are "DX" or "crop sensor" cameras, same as your D200. There are also FX or so-called "full frame" models, with larger sensors. Those are great for landscapes, for example...
if you make really big prints (which you say you don't). Some FX cameras are within your stated budget, too. HOWEVER, to make best use of a FX/full frame camera requires you use it with FX/full frame lenses.... which are necessarily bigger, heavier and usually more expensive than DX/crop sensor design lenses. FX lenses need larger elements to produce an image circle big enough to fully cover the larger size FX sensor. Of course, that makes for an overall bigger and heavier lens... often at a higher price. DX cameras, on the other hand, can use both FX
and DX lenses, equally well (which you probably already know, with your DX format D200).
So, while you can buy a D610 or D750 for well under your $2000 limit, I'm not recommending them for travel in particular, not because the camera presents any problem, but because would end up with a heavier and bigger kit of lenses to use upon them but you'd see little benefit if you rarely print larger than 8x10. BTW... both of those FX models are 24MP, too... same as the D7200 DX camera. Now, the FX cameras with "less crowded" sensors are sure to offer higher usable ISO than the DX camera. But you'll already be seeing a huge improvement in that respect coming from D200 to D7200. Where you might have never have wanted to use above ISO 800 with the older camera, you can probably get just as good or maybe even better images 2 or 3 stops higher with the 24MP D7200. With one of the 24MP FX models, it might be 3 or 4 stops higher. It's highly subjective, how high ISO folks are willing to use... beside personal preferences and folks tendency to "pixel peep", it also depends upon other factors such as post-processing and more... so I hesitate to put actual numbers on it. Just figure that with the newer DX camera you'll be able to do at least 2 and maybe 3 or more stops higher than feel you can now, whatever that might be, with your D200. that will come in handy in low light conditions and indoors when you can't use flash.
There are lots of other features that the newer camera will offer... hard to say which might appeal to you. For example, I think D7200 has Flicker Detection which is great when you need to shoot under fluorescent and similar lighting. That lighting which cycles on and off rapidly has always been a problem for photographers, causing a lot of under-exposed and ugly tinted images. The only solution in the past was to shoot plenty of extra shots, because half or more were likely to be badly exposed (though some felt they could do a little better by using a shutter speed that's a multiple of the light cycling rate, which is 60 times per sec in the U.S and 50 hertz in most of Europe). Recent cameras offer a feature that detects the cycling and times the shutter release to coincide with the peak output of the lighting. Canon calls it Anti-Flicker and I think Nikon calls it Flicker-Free... IT WORKS. Using it under fluorescent, sodium vapor and some other types of lights, I see FAR fewer poorly exposed images... almost eliminates the problem entirely. May or may not be something helpful to you.
Other folks like WiFi, GPS, HD or 4K video and some of the other gee gaws more modern cameras offer. Not for me. But I have to shoot in dusty places frequently and self-cleaning sensors are GREAT! My cameras without it, I had to manually clean every month of two. Self-cleaning sensor models (which I quickly switched to when they came available around 8 or 10 years ago) need far less frequent cleanings. Sometimes I've only need to manually clean once a year or less (and I'm still shooting the same events... so am dealing with the same dust).
You also might like the 100% viewfinder (versus 95% in your D200) and much improved 51-point AF system, 15 of which are higher performance "cross type" (compared to 11-point with 1 cross type in D200). The D7200's AF also is "f/8 capable".... at center AF point only... allowing use of teleconverters with more lenses (your D200 is "f/5.6 limited").
You'll probably find other stuff you like on an upgrade camera. This sort of summarizes the key things an upgrade from D200 to D7200 offer you:
http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D200-vs-Nikon-D7200These are more in-depth reviews of the D7200 itself, by only compare to immediately prior and other manufacturer models:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d7200https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d7200.htmhttps://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d7200/nikon-d7200A.HTM