Canoe50d

If you don't plan to use the video end of it, I have a Canon 50d for sale. Might just be a better camera in the long run.

Canoe50d

I also have a 7d and don't really use the video end of it. When in video mode the rear view window is the ony way of keeping focus and if your outside it is rather hard to see. Thus you end up with a short video that goes in and out and in and out of focus. If I were to set up a tripod and shoot a still subject, the quality if very nice. I can see the advantage of having the 4Ti in that it will focus for you, but with only one lens and not being able to use that lens with any other cams. That might be the {wait and see for me). I do have a Canon 50d for sale if having video is not all that importent to you. It would be a better camera for the money. Spend the extra money on some L glass..... Just an idea.

Canoe50d

I also have a 7d and don't really use the video end of it. When in video mode the rear view window is the ony way of keeping focus and if your outside it is rather hard to see. Thus you end up with a short video that goes in and out and in and out of focus. If I were to set up a tripod and shoot a still subject, the quality if very nice. I can see the advantage of having the 4Ti in that it will focus for you, but with only one lens and not being able to use that lens with any other cams. That might be the {wait and see for me). I do have a Canon 50d for sale if having video is not all that importent to you. It would be a better camera for the money. Spend the extra money on some L glass..... Just an idea.

oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey

Just a quock thought to make your mind think. There are some really nice video cameras out there.

I know there are a few advantages to both. My thoughts are my DSLR is for taking photos. I don't want to have to change modes, lenses ect for a 30 second video. Easier for the few times I shoot video to just reach in my pocket and grab my Canon FS30 and shoot.

It is also cheaper.

Jim D

Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri

Autofocus is rarely used on professional video from a DSLR. If you have ever shot a video and observed the focus changing as it seeks a new focal point, you can immediately see it is distracting at best. Decidedly more of a nuisance most of the time and represents a loss of creative control. This may be why the Canon 7D has an autofocus button that sets the focus and holds it until pushed again instead of a continuing auto focus feature. That feature works fairly well except when you want a specific point in focus, then it is annoying problematic. A slow or fast change in focus from something up close to something further away is a very common technique in video, and it cannot be done with autofocus in a DSLR.
(BTW, $30,000 to $100,000 commercial video cameras have all sorts of pre-set focus fades/stops that make this easier, but they are another animal entirely)

Please don't confuse this with autofocus on a still image, where the reverse is true 98% of the time. Autofocus on still images is possibly the best advantage on modern DSLRs.
The only time I have not used autofocus on a DSLR is when I want a specific DOF or when using a macro lens where the focal point is so critical to getting the right image.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

I'd just get the body. The kit lens is just that - a kit lens. You'd be better off using what you have and save for a pro lens after you figure out exactly an ideal focal length. That lens might autofocus in movie mode, but NOT while shooting a movie. I mean, it might autofocus while shooting, but it won't be pretty. All videographers use manual focus via a lever that you can attach to most lenses. It will autofocus just prior to taking video. Besides, that kit lens (and I have one) will creep out, sometimes bang down, if held in the down facing position. (gravity)

bvargas Loc: Palm Harbor, Florida

Thanks for all the good advise, decided not to get kit lens. BV

Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA

BV,

BTW, I just received my Canon 70-200 f4.0L USM lens this week. Iknow I should have saved up for the f2.8L IS USM, but I wanted something lighter to carry than my 100-400 f4.5-5.6 USM IS while at the zoo & Phipps Conservatory. I figure if I plan the day right, with available light & bumping the ISO just a tad, I can still get sharp pics with my 7D and monopod.

Grumpy D Stevens

Personally, I think Nikon, Canon, etc, spend WAAAYYY too much time & energy on the video capabilities of current DSLRs. I know, I know, movies and TV series have been filmed with these types of cameras, but I guess I just don't get the point. Smaller, lighter, less bulky equipment can be used shoot the occasional event video (birthdays, reunions, etc).

The few times I've needed to film video, I've used P&S or bridge cameras.

Again, it comes down to what you want to shoot.[/quote]

I agree. I would buy a 5D MKIII in a heartbeat if they would take out the video and just have a still version. Cut the price in half and sell them by the thousands.

I want a full frame camera to go with all of my lenses (about 10 or 12) and just can't afford the "big bucks" for all of the stuff I don't need.

bvargas Loc: Palm Harbor, Florida

Now, the real question? Would you get the Rebel 3Ti instead of the Rebel 4Ti. $579 instead of $849 and use the difference in a Wide Angle Lens. BV

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

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http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-Rebel-T4i-vs-Canon-T3i

mdorn Loc: Portland, OR

I agree.

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