Canon New Lens
Jul 18, 2012 09:09:50 #
I am planning to purchase the new Canon Rebel 4Ti Movie Kit. This comes with the new 18-135mm STM Lens, (29-216mm) This lens will Auto Focus in Movie Mode. I now have a Tamron 18-270mm Di II, (29-432mm) latest type (very good lens). This lens will not auto focus in movie mode. Both these lens have the same aperture 3.5-6.3. I do not use movie mode that much, but would be nice to do so, if needed, in AUTO.
My question is would you buy the new Canon STM lens and sell the Tamron or keep the Tamron. Price for the Rebel body is $849 and with the STM (Stepping Motor), $1199. Lens alone sells for $549, but when you buy it as a Kit, only $300 difference. Thanks respectfully. BV
My question is would you buy the new Canon STM lens and sell the Tamron or keep the Tamron. Price for the Rebel body is $849 and with the STM (Stepping Motor), $1199. Lens alone sells for $549, but when you buy it as a Kit, only $300 difference. Thanks respectfully. BV
Jul 18, 2012 11:59:42 #
Jul 18, 2012 13:35:36 #
Right now, I do not have a Canon body, which I sold. We don't really need anything in life, just fun to want. LOL BV
Jul 18, 2012 14:14:47 #
Definitely don't sell the Tamron it has a much further reach and I'm sure you'll use it. The question is if you should purchase the Canon with the STM Lens or without. I have a Canon 7D and have used the movie mode maybe twice. I may use it one day but so far I just haven't had a reason. You'll have to ask yourself the question, Do I want to spend the extra money for the STM Lens that auto focuses or not? If money isn't a problem I say go for it. The inability to not auto focus on the 7D is a bummer and is engineering faux pas of you ask me. Just know that if you do purchase the lens with the intention to sell it only people with the Canon 4Ti can use it. It will not auto focus with other Canon DSLRs as of now. Another way to go is buy the body only and spend the money you save on a nice prime or macro. Either way I'm sure you'll have fun taking images with your new camera.
Jul 18, 2012 14:47:13 #
outsider wrote:
Definitely don't sell the Tamron it has a much fur... (show quote)
Apologies BV for hijacking your thread, but I have a question for "outsider". Can you explain this statement "The inability to not auto focus on the 7D is a bummer and is engineering faux pas of you ask me." I'm getting close to purchasing the 7D and didn't understand what you meant by this.. Thanks.
edh
Jul 18, 2012 14:48:28 #
outsider wrote:
Definitely don't sell the Tamron it has a much fur... (show quote)
Outsider is correct. It is an "odd duck" lens that will not currently move to another body.
Most videographers that I know do not use or want auto focus.
It is more of an annoyance than a benefit 95% of the time.
So you may wish to try using that Tamron for both stills and videos before springing for the STM.
Jul 18, 2012 16:11:52 #
I upgraded my Rebel xt to the T2i so I can video with the same camera (just as I can with my small pocket camera). I use the video ability often to record my daughter's dances. It is nice to have a good SLR camera with the option to "pop" into video mode. In fact, the video mode is excellent with 1080 video. There are reports of the T2i being used to record TV shows and movies.
However, the T2i does not offer an autofocus video option. You can have the camera focus for you by lightly pressing the shutter button but you hear and record the focusing mechanism. This is a problem, especially for me. I use reading glasses and have too many blurred movies.
I plan on upgrading to the T4i and the STM lens. I find the T2i w/o the autofocus option a problem.
I would keep the Tamron since reports online (lensrental.com) show that the kit 18-135 STM lens is an ok, but not a great lens for photography. I plan on keeping my current lenses and use the kit 18-135 only when I need to video.
However, the T2i does not offer an autofocus video option. You can have the camera focus for you by lightly pressing the shutter button but you hear and record the focusing mechanism. This is a problem, especially for me. I use reading glasses and have too many blurred movies.
I plan on upgrading to the T4i and the STM lens. I find the T2i w/o the autofocus option a problem.
I would keep the Tamron since reports online (lensrental.com) show that the kit 18-135 STM lens is an ok, but not a great lens for photography. I plan on keeping my current lenses and use the kit 18-135 only when I need to video.
Jul 18, 2012 16:26:28 #
I would not buy the Canon STM lens at this time. There are not enough in depth reviews on them yet.
As far as video goes, I would spend the money on an SX40 and use that for video. I have done done quite a bit of video work on the SX40 and am pleased with the quality. I do use CHDK on my SX40 for some of the additional video features.
As far as video goes, I would spend the money on an SX40 and use that for video. I have done done quite a bit of video work on the SX40 and am pleased with the quality. I do use CHDK on my SX40 for some of the additional video features.
Jul 18, 2012 16:57:09 #
edh wrote:
quote=outsider Definitely don't sell the Tamron i... (show quote)
Apologies for not being clear. On the new Canon T4i and paired up with an STM lens in movie mode the lens will keep focus no matter where you point it or if the subject moves. On the 7D you first have to focus on the subject then push record, then if the subject moves or you pan left or right or whatever YOU have to keep the focus by pressing the AF button, the camera will not. Only STM Lenses paired up with the 4Ti, and I'm sure future cameras, will keep focus automaticaly when the subject moves or you change the scene. Thanks you for letting me know that wasn't clear.
Jul 18, 2012 23:06:13 #
Jul 18, 2012 23:26:58 #
bvargas wrote:
I am planning to purchase the new Canon Rebel 4Ti ... (show quote)
Sell the Tamron get the new lens and use the money from the Tamron to get a longer lens if you really need a longer lens. I think I read that the STM lens can keep focus on moving subject I wonder if that would work for taking still shots of moving subjects like birds?
Jul 19, 2012 01:31:38 #
St3v3M wrote:
quote=outsider quote=edh quote=outsider Definit... (show quote)
Yes it was.. Thanks outsider..
Jul 19, 2012 06:12:14 #
"Most videographers that I know do not use or want auto focus.
It is more of an annoyance than a benefit 95% of the time."
I am having difficulty with this statement. How could auto focus be a nuisance, when focus changes as a camera pans or zooms? How could anyone keep up with that and frame the shot at the same time?
It is more of an annoyance than a benefit 95% of the time."
I am having difficulty with this statement. How could auto focus be a nuisance, when focus changes as a camera pans or zooms? How could anyone keep up with that and frame the shot at the same time?
Jul 19, 2012 06:25:06 #
bvargas wrote:
I am planning to purchase the new Canon Rebel 4Ti ... (show quote)
BV,
I have to agree with Outsider here. How much video do you realistically see yourself shooting with the new Rebel? I have the 7D and the 5D MKII and I haven't shot a foot of video with either. I also have an NEX-5N and an NEX-7. The only video I shot with either is when my thumb accidently hit the video button by mistake. I have a Sony camcorder that shoots all the various video modes & I use that when I'm asked to tape a special occasion.
Personally, I think Nikon, Canon, etc, spend WAAAYYY too much time & energy on the video capabilities of current DSLRs. I know, I know, movies and TV series have been filmed with these types of cameras, but I guess I just don't get the point. Smaller, lighter, less bulky equipment can be used shoot the occasional event video (birthdays, reunions, etc).
The few times I've needed to film video, I've used P&S or bridge cameras.
Again, it comes down to what you want to shoot.
Jul 19, 2012 06:31:00 #
Yes, I heard that if you shoot birds for instance, you do it in movie mode and then you can snap a still at the same time, however, this lens is not long enough for some bird images. BV
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