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Feb 3, 2018 12:18:20   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
steve DeMott wrote:
.../... My suggestion would be to let the Pro decide to unlock or not.

If it was that simple....

The admin would have to keep up every-time we add or subtract a mentor. He might take exception to the additional work on his part.

In a PM exchange he announced that he might consider making a change but first it would have to see if the section is successful AND this would be a low priority since he has other things to deal with.

In the mean time, bear with us, we have no choice.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:22:16   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
Rongnongno wrote:
If it was that simple....

The admin would have to keep up every-time we add or subtract a mentor. He might take exception to the additional work on his part.

In a PM exchange he announced that he might consider making a change but first it would have to see if the section is successful AND this would be a low priority since he has other things to deal with.

In the mean time, bear with us, we have no choice.



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Feb 3, 2018 12:42:18   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Rongnongno wrote:
If it was that simple....

The admin would have to keep up every-time we add or subtract a mentor. He might take exception to the additional work on his part.

In a PM exchange he announced that he might consider making a change but first it would have to see if the section is successful AND this would be a low priority since he has other things to deal with.

In the mean time, bear with us, we have no choice.


Floyd didn't have any problems deleting posts from his section...

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Feb 3, 2018 12:50:09   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
blackest wrote:
Floyd didn't have any problems deleting posts from his section...

No clue as to whom floyd is.

The idea is that deleting posts is controversial and can create a negative approach to the whole section.

I am looking at this as a semi private conversation we can all listen to but not participate. If I have to go 'shut-up' and delete posts I am sure this would create a 'violent' push back. So the solution is only a few select can participate, the thread operator and the mentors. Even moderators are not allowed to answer.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:52:24   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
blackest wrote:
There are a few teething problems, the intent of the section states that the questioner can declare the topic closed.
This suggests the questioner should be able to post the initial question. This works, an expert can ask for clarity on some point and the questioner should be able to reply back. (doesn't work yet) the expert give an answer and the questioner give their understanding of the answer- [case closed]

I don't see anything uncivil about the comment you were replying too. Your own reply not exactly civil in itself.

To paraphrase your own words, I have a thought! If that post isn't to your liking, don't read it. Pretty simple and a hell of a lot more civil. Not very civil is it? Maybe you should consider what you are saying and how you are saying it before you hit reply.
There are a few teething problems, the intent of ... (show quote)


I actually agree. Tone is important and mine came up short.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:58:11   #
Skiextreme2 Loc: Northwest MA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I don't get it either.
The newby, who doesn't know any better will still have to separate the wheat from the chaff from advice and opinions opined from often self-appointed experts--
"mentors" who may know what they are talking about, or might not; "mentors" who will still disagree with each other even though they belong to this special mentor group. The reader must still decide.
As it is now, we have a free flow of ideas, from anyone who wishes to contribute. In short time, a reader knows which contributors are credible and knowledgable, but it not limited by only their ideas.
The Main discussion for open ideas will still be available-I understand. But a closed discussion, limiting ideas from anyone but a group of elite mentors, whose ideas are already judged everyday by their responses; will serve little purpose, except to promote self aggrandizing from those who already take themselves too seriously
Still, I will read "Advice from the Pros" daily; as well as the Main Discussion.
Nothing really new under the sun here.

One more point: Will the elite experts/mentors still be permitted to give us advice in the Main Discussion---I certainly hope so.
I don't get it either. br The newby, who doesn't k... (show quote)


I think it's an opportunity to get answers from pros/specialists in different fields, rather than 50% knowledgeable, 25% somewhat close and 25% that don't have a clue (and 50% of the answers being repetitious because nobody takes/has the time to read all the posts). I've seen some really wrong answers/advice given, some of which was not even related to the same equipment (people that use phones giving advice about phone software when the question was about cameras)

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Feb 3, 2018 13:13:27   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
srt101fan wrote:
Ron, don't know if you're taking suggestions for mentors, but one of the best, most knowledgeable and helpful posters is amfoto1. Another is burkphoto.


I second that.

Mike

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Feb 3, 2018 13:16:36   #
Pochon53
 
I think this is really bad news. I belonged to the BCA, the Buick club of America, for many years and it was great; my main interest was 1954s, so when I found an organization devoted to the 1954s I joined it, and there was a clique of 4 or 5 people who were the only ones allowed to do anything. For instance: if one of them found a car of interest somewhere, they would pass the location info to the man in that group that was closest geographically. Swell. I do film, and I have been doing it well, since 1953 without having to deal with some 'pros'. Note lower case 'p'.

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Feb 3, 2018 14:07:53   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Just the other day didn't one of these so called pros tell someone that they could get the same infra-red results with software that they would get with a converted camera?

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Feb 3, 2018 14:14:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
AirWalter wrote:
Just the other day didn't one of these so called pros tell someone that they could get the same infra-red results with software that they would get with a converted camera?

It was I who suggested it as an alternative to modifying the software. If you pay attention, I am a moderator there, not a mentor. I made clear I would not answer any question but would ask for further information at a thread beginning - if needed.

Actually this is misleading. I did not state this but in the moderator selection.

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Feb 3, 2018 14:29:00   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Rich1939 wrote:
I actually agree. Tone is important and mine came up short.


We all have our off days, i'm trying not be too grumpy but currently in pain and irritated, pain killers are not as good as I would like ...

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Feb 3, 2018 14:31:42   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Rongnongno wrote:
It was I who suggested it as an alternative to modifying the software. If you pay attention, I am a moderator there, not a mentor. I made clear I would not answer any question but would ask for further information at a thread beginning - if needed.

Actually this is misleading. I did not state this but in the moderator selection.



I believe you said "I believe you can get the same results with software". Rather clear to me. I know you believe you are never wrong.

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Feb 3, 2018 16:18:22   #
Bob Boner
 
What exactly makes someone a "pro". What are "serious credentials." Does someone have to be making their living as a photographer? I am a retired college professor who taught his first photography class in 1972, and many more times since then. Some of my students now make their living with photography. Does this make me a professional? What if we get conflicting answers form mentors? Since there is a lot of room for speculation in photography, this is bound to happen (unless the mentors have a policy of not disagreeing with one another).

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Feb 3, 2018 16:36:06   #
Alan M Loc: Denton, Maryland
 
I've subscribed. Thanks for setting this up.

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Feb 3, 2018 17:04:42   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
AirWalter wrote:
I believe you said "I believe you can get the same results with software". Rather clear to me. I know you believe you are never wrong.

If you were completely honest instead and try to start something you would have noticed that one of the mentor corrected me. But never-mind that hey?

By the way, what is difference between:
"I believe you can get the same results with software".
and
"You can get the same results with software".

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