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Jan 25, 2018 21:51:06   #
jjanovy Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Because of my wife's profession, I've ended up in the company of artists and art historians for decades. Yes, all artists learn constantly, and much of what they learn is from their own exploration of what they want, or feel a need, to capture. Clearly if you buy a new Nikon D850 you're going to be learning a LOT in a fairly quick time. But all artists learn what they themselves want in terms of their own artistic expression. Even if you're not making money from photography, or any other genre of art, or writing, or music, etc., you're always learning. Always.

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Jan 25, 2018 21:52:48   #
A10 Loc: Southern Indiana
 
I resemble that remark! I too have been shooting for awhile, 55 years, and I learn continuously. I belong to two camera clubs and learn from the "newbies" and the old guys equally.
Horseart wrote:
Well, let's see. I have had a camera in my hands since I was 10 years old. Looking at my pictures (not snapshots, but not yet photographs) you'd think I might have been shooting them for a year or two. Some days I decide to give it up, but if I wait another day, I might want another camera!

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Jan 25, 2018 23:25:21   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
The funny thing is,I did not realize I had the 'room', or the ability to learn until I was in my late 20s, mid 30s.
Been trying to learn as much as I can(no matter what the subject) ever since.

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Jan 26, 2018 00:50:35   #
dragon64 Loc: Stewartstown PA
 
I'm self taught as well. Started learning 64 years ago when I got my first Brownie. Still learning to this day. I took pictures for pleasure back then and still do today. Only difference is the greater sophistication of my gear and the little knowledge I've gained through my journey. I try to learn and retain something useful every day that might help me be .a better photographer and person.

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Jan 26, 2018 04:32:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
canon Lee wrote:
Take me for an example.... Ive been shooting professionally, ( I have clients that pay me. Its my PROfession), for a very long time, that being said, I don't know it all, and run across situations that are new to me and it forces me to update my understanding of photography. There are those here that seem to know everything, and yet from their comments its apparent that there is yet more room for learning.


I know everything I know, but there is still some rule for more knowledge.

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Jan 26, 2018 05:18:01   #
dylee8 Loc: South Florida
 
For me one of the joys of photography is the continuous process of learning.

And sometimes when I apply my "knowledge" to take a photo, it came up short. That means I don't know what I thought I know. If that makes any sense.

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Jan 26, 2018 08:44:37   #
Gammy Sandy Loc: Hernando Beach, FL
 
The older I become, almost 70, (It beats the alternative for sure) the more I realize how much I don't know and the harder it is to retain information. (Chemo brain doesn't help) I read, reread, learn from so many tutorials on the internet and take lots of notes on photography. I took a course at the local college last year that was lots of fun, and I absolutely love to learn and practice what I am learning. So much to learn and hopefully many years left to do this. Such a wonderful passion in my life, I am blessed.

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Jan 26, 2018 10:08:56   #
joel.photography
 
joer wrote:


BTW being a professional by definition only means paid for work, good or bad.

Yeah, there was a guy on here, clearly not a pro, was all peeved because he's referred to as an amateur, crying about how good his work was.

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Jan 26, 2018 10:28:01   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
tommystrat wrote:
Sam Snead was a famous and immensely talented golfer, who was known to make a wager or two on the golf course. One day, his attention was drawn to a loud, obnoxious golfer who was carrying on about how good his new equipment was, and how he felt he could beat anyone with his new sticks. Snead approached him and proposed a wager (a fairly substantial sum) that Snead could beat him with a stick he cut off of a tree. Well, you can probably guess the outcome - Snead cut a limb off a tree, played 18 holes, smoked him and took his money.

Moral of the story: Talent will win out over equipment every time.
Sam Snead was a famous and immensely talented golf... (show quote)

Like any anecdote, this can be pushed too far. In 1967, the beginning of my junior year of college, I began a life-long sub-hobby of photographing railroads. For the first two years, I was badly hobbled by my equipment - an old {originally used by my dad to take baby pictures of me} box camera and an Instamatic 100. Until summer of 1969, when I used graduation money to purchase a rangefinder 35mm camera, an ape with a 35mm camera could have taken better pictures of moving trains than I could - the fixed shutter speed of my cameras just wasn't up to the task!

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Jan 26, 2018 12:34:40   #
AIK Loc: SW Ontario
 
I have committed myself to life long learning. I decided long ago that I am not going to die till I know everything, that is my firm wish......... Now, I must admit though that not all my wishes got fulfilled in life....... Let's see how this will play out. I'll report back on the subject when I feel that I get close to my goal.........

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Jan 26, 2018 18:32:26   #
canon Lee
 
Bootneck wrote:
I think this thread shows some people think they know more than others maybe because they are professionals.

As quoted

"There are those here that seem to know everything, and yet from their comments its apparent that there is yet more room for learning and the labelling of some fellow Hoggers as know-it-alls".

My observations are that such wide statements are to put it mildly, rude. The general advice freely given is advice as the contributer believes. If it may be incorrect, I have noticed many times that the wrong advice is corrected. If response and advice were only given by qualified professionals (what necessarily does a professional photographer photo, Real Estate), we snapshotters may as well give photography away
I think this thread shows some people think they k... (show quote)


I speak for myself Bootneck, I am a professional, in short that means that I earn my living at a specific type of photography. I would have to learn much from those here, as to how to shoot in the wild, (landscapes,pets,birds etc), their techniques and talents... I have never claimed to be better than others because I make a living doing photography... I strive to learn from my mistakes and seek to better my self as a photographer.. I have learned so much here from other Hogs... I am in awe of some of the photos I see on here and most are from great photographers that do it for the pure passion of photography. My only claim to fame is that I have been able to be in this business for a long time.. I must be doing something right.... It really offends a lot here when the word "Pro" or "Professional" is mentioned... To me the word Pro is short for profession. Some how many feel that doing this for a living makes them feel its a put down and their great works have no value. Nothing can be further from the truth as far a I am concerned. Im just a hard working photographer, making a living. I have a credible amount of info to share here with those that are just learning. I don't give advice about things I have not experienced or achieved. But be aware that there are contributors here that speak, not from experience, but from guessing what the answers should be. When they are in error, it can mislead.....

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Jan 26, 2018 18:35:47   #
canon Lee
 
jjanovy wrote:
Because of my wife's profession, I've ended up in the company of artists and art historians for decades. Yes, all artists learn constantly, and much of what they learn is from their own exploration of what they want, or feel a need, to capture. Clearly if you buy a new Nikon D850 you're going to be learning a LOT in a fairly quick time. But all artists learn what they themselves want in terms of their own artistic expression. Even if you're not making money from photography, or any other genre of art, or writing, or music, etc., you're always learning. Always.
Because of my wife's profession, I've ended up in ... (show quote)


Excellent commentary ... Aside from knowing the technical part of knowing how your camera works, it then is pure talent.... It's the creativity that screams to be let out, no matter if it's a camera or a palette of colors begging to used...

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Jan 26, 2018 18:43:47   #
John Maher Loc: Northern Virginia
 
The more you learn, the less you know.

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Jan 26, 2018 21:14:36   #
AIK Loc: SW Ontario
 
Thanks for the note. I know what you mean about the curse of shooting professionally. Some on forums immediately square you in as one who likely feel several notches above the rest, therefore, his nose is too high in the air. So in many cases it is harder to put an opinion forward since there will be some who'll look at it as a ship that is to be torpedoed....... Proving that the guy is here for bragging rights. I had that experience more than once and toned down my expectations about academic discussions. I used to teach arts and photography in college but found that teaching on the internet is not a rewarding undertaking, even the slightest advice may ricochet the wrong way....

AIK wrote:
I have committed myself to life long learning. I decided long ago that I am not going to die till I know everything, that is my firm wish......... Now, I must admit though that not all my wishes got fulfilled in life....... Let's see how this will play out. I'll report back on the subject when I feel that I get close to my goal.........

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Jan 26, 2018 21:19:49   #
AIK Loc: SW Ontario
 
Oh, wrong button again...... This was meant to be a reply to canon Lee. I did not even finish it and instead of a face button I accidentally hit the send button. Now, that speaks volumes of how sensitive a trigger can be on the newly introduced Lumix G9. Some folks have already mentioned this on the net..........



AIK wrote:
Thanks for the note. I know what you mean about the curse of shooting professionally. Some on forums immediately square you in as one who likely feel several notches above the rest, therefore, his nose is too high in the air. So in many cases it is harder to put an opinion forward since there will be some who'll look at it as a ship that is to be torpedoed....... Proving that the guy is here for bragging rights. I had that experience more than once and toned down my expectations about academic discussions. I used to teach arts and photography in college but found that teaching on the internet is not a rewarding undertaking, even the slightest advice may ricochet the wrong way....
Thanks for the note. I know what you mean about th... (show quote)



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