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Jan 5, 2018 15:29:48   #
Boxcar21
 
Since you are new to photography......Why not start with a "bridge camera" like the Sony RX 10 24-200 mm f 2.8 zoom lens and great images. The RX 10 price of around $800.00 is a bargain.

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Jan 5, 2018 16:07:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rehess wrote:
There's nothing wrong with space-age "plastics"; they make airplanes from that kind of materials. I had a Canon lens with a "plastic" mount; it lasted the entire eleven years I used the camera Canon kitted that lens with.


That’s not the sort of plastic I’m talking about. It’s the cheap plastic tripods with weak camera mounts that snap under the weight of the camera they were sold with. It’s the flash units with feet that snap off if you breathe on them the wrong way. It’s the cases that rip under the weight of the gear they came with...

Yes, I’ve seen all these things happen.

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Jan 5, 2018 16:33:00   #
jrh1354 Loc: Dayton, Ohio
 
burkphoto wrote:
Be careful! Many bundles contain useless, plastic junk. Some are half useful/half junk. Others are worthy, all around.

Manufacturer bundles are usually balanced well. Retailer bundles? Buyer beware...


I'll second the motion on the Nikon 18-140 lens, it's a great lens to use with a DX camera like the D500.

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Jan 5, 2018 16:39:12   #
donsyler
 
Have you looked at the deals on the Nikon USA site? Often there are some very good camera / lens bundles on sale. Also, consider their Refurbished package deals. Both Nikon and Canon offer great deals on camera packages that cannot be told from new with 1 year warranties. Bought mine on advice from a friend and have never regretted it.

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Jan 5, 2018 16:41:36   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Nikon only offers a 90 day warranty on refurbished products
donsyler wrote:
Have you looked at the deals on the Nikon USA site? Often there are some very good camera / lens bundles on sale. Also, consider their Refurbished package deals. Both Nikon and Canon offer great deals on camera packages that cannot be told from new with 1 year warranties. Bought mine on advice from a friend and have never regretted it.

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Jan 5, 2018 16:45:50   #
donsyler
 
Thanks A good reason to buy a Canon

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Jan 5, 2018 17:07:49   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
philo wrote:
the body does nothing but hold the lens (plus a few other things).

So, you're going to mount a $2000 lens on a $500 body???

Right now the sensor and processor(s) are major determinants of what you get, and my opinion is that they will become increasingly important in the next few years.

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Jan 5, 2018 17:17:12   #
Geegee Loc: Peterborough, Ont.
 
bpulv wrote:
I would buy the most versatile lens you can. One that will replace the cost and inconvenience of multiple lenses. The Nikon 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED IF AF-S DX Nikkor VR Lens is a wide angle, normal and telephoto lens all in one. It is also a great lens for travel where you don't want the burden carrying and switching multiple lenses. It has quality that is similar to the "kit lenses" and will serve you well even after you become a proficient photographer and add lenses to your collection. I have several lenses in my collection that cost thousands of dollars, but when I travel, I usually only take a single similar lens full range lense for my full frame D800.

The 18-300mm costs just under $1,000, but if that is an issue, I would buy a less expensive body than the D500. A D7200, for example, is $900 less and still has all the features you will need until you are much more advanced. By that future time you would probably want to replace the D500 with a current model that had more features than the D500 in any case.
I would buy the most versatile lens you can. One t... (show quote)


bplv has given the best advice so far in this post. You don't need a d500 at your stage of photography, a d7200 is more than adequate and costs much less. I would go with the best reasonable priced walkaround lens that Nikon offers - the Nikkor 18-200. You should only then require two more lenses in the future, a macro lens and a super-zoom. Good luck, and join a camera club.

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Jan 5, 2018 18:35:49   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
After you decide what you are gong to shoot and then decide on an outfit, just be aware of the gray market kits. I purchased a 60D not knowing anything about this and when i had an incident with it Canon would not even look at it to see what it would take to repair, even though the warranty was up and I was willing to pay the bill. Can't speak for Nikon but here is Canons perspective on them. so do your research, Canon Nikon, Sony, all dictate what the price will be no matter who the reputable store is, but they can add other items, but they are cheap and you would not be happy with them except maybe the extra battery. But anyway check out this link from Canon.

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/groups/gray-market

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Jan 5, 2018 18:56:48   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
IMO, if you are new to DSLR's, a bundle is probably more useful for starting out.

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Jan 5, 2018 19:03:19   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
BlueMoon525 wrote:
Hello! I’m a newbie here...this is my first post! Most of my experience behind the camera has been with point and shoots. While I’ve enjoyed those I would rather have a better quality camera for better pics. I’m going to stretch my budget a bit and get a Nikon D500. My dilemma is should I go with a bundle that the retailer is selling? If I were to get the body and just one lens to begin with what would you recommend as a good ‘all occasion’ type of lens? I guess that’s enough to start...i talk ... a lot so I’ll apologize in advance! :-). Thank you everyone! Looking forward to chatting with all of you!
Hello! I’m a newbie here...this is my first post!... (show quote)


I saw the D500 being offered with the Nikon 18-80 f2.8/f4 a lens which I own and regularly use. Good one to start with. The bundle offered the lens at sizable discount compared to buying separately.

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Jan 5, 2018 20:07:27   #
cmcaroffino Loc: Sebring, FL
 
Hello and welcome. As others have said do some thinking about how you will use the camera before you buy. That being said the "kit" lens that comes with the nikon D500 is the 16-80 which is a very good lens. The advantage of buying a package is getting a discount on the lens. The 16-80 by itself lists for $1066 but when bought with the D500 the cost is $600 a substantial savings. I would also think if the D500 is the best choice for you. While an excellent camera it may be more than you need as it geared more to those who shoot sports, flying birds and action type photography. For just general photography you might better off with the D7500 or even a D7200 with something like an 18-140 or 18-300 lens. The IQ of the cameras is about the same but the cameras are smaller, lighter and less expensive. Whatever you decide they are all super cameras.

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Jan 5, 2018 20:48:00   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
BlueMoon525 wrote:
Hello! I’m a newbie here...this is my first post! Most of my experience behind the camera has been with point and shoots. While I’ve enjoyed those I would rather have a better quality camera for better pics. I’m going to stretch my budget a bit and get a Nikon D500. My dilemma is should I go with a bundle that the retailer is selling? If I were to get the body and just one lens to begin with what would you recommend as a good ‘all occasion’ type of lens? I guess that’s enough to start...i talk ... a lot so I’ll apologize in advance! :-). Thank you everyone! Looking forward to chatting with all of you!
Hello! I’m a newbie here...this is my first post!... (show quote)


You’d be better served with a D7200 or D5600. Many of the comments on bundles are good. I’d avoid very expensive lenses and full frame lenses (with one exception) till you find out what you really want to pursue.

The D500 is a very heavy and specialized camera. Great for those who need one and praised by anyone that spent the money to get one but not what you need right now. I suspect, like my D800, it even lacks the modes DSLR beginners shoul use to learn.

My exception on full frame lenses is if you want to get a lens for wildlife. The Nikon 200-500 and other 150-600s are all full frame lenses. They are also very large and heavy so be prepared if you go that way.

Ignore recommendations for expensive f2.8 lenses. You don’t need them.

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Jan 5, 2018 20:50:20   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
Boris Ekner wrote:
1st.
In general, bundle contents are cheap crap. I cannot pass judgement on your bundle, of course not. But the likelihood it contains any good items is as slim as a fart in space.

2nd.
You’re about to buy one of the best crop sensor cameras on the market. Why would you consider using cheap filters, a cheap tripod or flash with that good a camera? I know I certainly wouldn’t.

3rd.
Find your D500 at the best price you can accept. And get a good all around lens with it. I’d suggest you get the Nikkor 16-80mm, f/2.8, because it’s considered one of the best all around lenses out there.











4th.
Read
-Nikon D500 for dummies, from Amazon.
-Secrets To The Nikon Autofocus System, by Steve Perry. Found here: https://backcountrygallery.com/secrets-nikon-autofocus-system/
-Understanding Exposure, by Bryan Peterson, from Amazon.

Here’s Steve Perry on the D500:
https://youtu.be/ComPpr0bniM

When you’ve read the books and learned to get familiar with your camera you’ll know what additional gear you want or need. I.e. don’t run for the cheap crap. Go for the stuff that makes your photography better.
1st. br In general, bundle contents are cheap crap... (show quote)


Your first point and your third point are in contradiction. You say that bundled lenses are a bunch of crap and then recommend the very lens that Nikon bundles with the D500. And, anyone who says the 24-120 f4, that Nikon bundled with the D750, is a bunch of crap is lacking in credibility.

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Jan 5, 2018 20:50:23   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Nikon only offers a 90 day warranty on refurbished products


If you buy from Cameta they add a one year warranty for free.

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