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Dec 28, 2017 12:52:04   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Pegasus wrote:
Why do you think there's something important about having the last word on a subject?

I was just correcting your numerous inaccuracies, and this last response of yours is just another example of your inaccuracies.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?


You conservatives, always ask the question, then reun before the danger of an answer is advanced.

Why don’t you put up a thought, an idea, put something on the table instead of the old ‘ask and run?’

I see no reason to relitigate Whitewater and such thinks of the past.

I like you assertation that Trump is guilty only of winning, when he didn’t win the popular vote, and Vladimir Putin pushed him through the electoral college. He has plenty of crimes to answer for, and he will.

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Dec 28, 2017 15:37:29   #
cwp3420
 
Twardlow wrote:
In your fantasies....

Please don’t respond.


You would think you being from Arkansas yourself that you would be up on that history, unless you’re in denial. You spout all of this alt left faux news on Trump, which is all bullshit, and yet you want to deflect on the Democrat party in your home state. Get help, Tom. You need it now more than ever. Poor bastard. As an aside, generally when you tell someone “good bye” on here it means you have put them on ignore. Since Pegasus handed you your flabby old man ass again, dos that mean you have now blocked him like you have everyone else?

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Dec 28, 2017 16:02:03   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
cwp3420 wrote:
You would think you being from Arkansas yourself that you would be up on that history, unless you’re in denial. You spout all of this alt left faux news on Trump, which is all bullshit, and yet you want to deflect on the Democrat party in your home state. Get help, Tom. You need it now more than ever. Poor bastard. As an aside, generally when you tell someone “good bye” on here it means you have put them on ignore. Since Pegasus handed you your flabby old man ass again, dos that mean you have now blocked him like you have everyone else?
You would think you being from Arkansas yourself t... (show quote)


Well, I know a thing or two about Arkansas and Whitewater—that Whitewater is old and done with while the nation we live in is circling the drain.

When I said Goodbye, it meant I was through witnessing your stupidity and hostility, but I sure ingnored your flabby ass, didn’t I, and for all time too, ignorant one.

Bugs your behind, doesn’t it? That’s why you always bring it up. You stand right behind idaholover—you’ll never get off the stupid list.

And, if it didn’t bother you, you’’d never butt into conversations that don’t concern you, that are beyond you, but you can’t stand being disrespected and left our.

Well, you can butt in, but you’ll Never Get Respect, Ha, Ha, Ha—you and idaholover.

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Dec 28, 2017 20:04:57   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Twardlow wrote:
This post is complete insanity, absolute, uneducated and possibly dishonest insanity. The Russians were massaging the election before the dossier became known.

The dossier was republican funded, then abandoned and taken up by the Clinton campaign as opposition research.

The FISA court had acted sometime before the dossier—possibly as far back as a year ago last July, when a task force began investigating.

No one ever said that the Russians changed the results of the election, just influenced it; they did not change vote totals.

It is a crime to interfere with elections, particularly so for foreigners to do so, and more so for Trump to cooperate with a foreign nation to contaminate a national election.

Clinton did Not fund a fake dossier on Trump. Steele is an experienced and respected intelligence agent, now in business in the same field, doing intelligence investigations for private clients. He is very good at it. As I said before, Clinton took over an abandoned study and funded its completion for opposition research—a perfectly normal and acceptable activity.

The fake dossier was NOT used to get the FISA court involved, even though the FBI validated parts of it.

I don’t know that Comey leaked the dossier; can you document that?

We do not know that Trump didn’t commit a crime, and actually I think he did, and I think it is established. At any rate, Mueller will find out, as his instructions demand.

“However, there are more than one investigation going on and we are finding out that the highest levels of the FBI and the DOJ is an anti-Trump cabal. They are certainly not the cool, detached professionals we always pictured the FBI to be; they are a virulent biased gang of thugs with a badge.” This is complete balderdash. There are two congressional investigations going on, about to be torpedoed by congressional Republicans. FBI agents are under no compulsion to be naive and ignorant about politics; they are allowed to contribute, to vote, and to have political opinions. These think have nothing to do with an investigation—an investigation led by a republican, by the way. It will be up to the courts to decide upon the validity of any evidence produced, and that decision will be advanced by a formal ruling, in writing, subject to review and appeal.

Don’t worry your baby curls about the integrity of the process; things like this happen everyday, and the process, while not perfect, has a sound reputation for reliability.

And... if you were Mueller, you would not be the idiot you prove yourself to be. He will end the end the investigation when he feels it is complete, and no plane trip out of town will be necessary.
This post is complete insanity, absolute, uneducat... (show quote)


What he posted is True Tom, how many times does the media have to get busted with false reporting on Trump because they are using anonymous sources before you begin to realize that you are consuming biased news at its very worst, meaning much of the news you consume is opinion rather than factual reporting... The history of the dossier goes from a through Clinton before it gets to the FBI and it does appear that the FBI may have used it to obtain FISA warrants that started this whole Trump investigation. Right now Nunes has given both the FBI and DOJ till January 3rd to produce witnesses and documents that they have so far refused to produce, where he goes from there it is hard to tell, but we can either expect his pushing for contempt charges or filing lawsuits or both. Trump is not going down Tom, it will be members of the previous administration from various departments that include the FBI and DOJ who end up going down, McCabe was only the first of many.

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Dec 28, 2017 20:08:01   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
KGOldWolf wrote:
Actually, that smarmy comment is not like you.

I put the facts out as I know them; are there parts you disagree with? If so, publish them - I answered your question. Your admonishment about "cut and paste" is disappointing. FYI - I'm well aware of the requirements of "peer review publications"... it was not cut and pasted.

I'm not the one in denial here.... I am on record as saying I want the professionals to conduct their investigation and will accept the outcome regardless of the report findings. I'm being objective about this, are you?
Actually, that smarmy comment is not like you. b... (show quote)


Yes, I thought that I was replying to McKenneyMike, somehow I don't see him capable of writhing the response that I replied to hence the short fuse and attribution comment. Sorry.

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Dec 28, 2017 20:18:33   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Twardlow wrote:
You conservatives, always ask the question, then reun before the danger of an answer is advanced.

Why don’t you put up a thought, an idea, put something on the table instead of the old ‘ask and run?’

I see no reason to relitigate Whitewater and such thinks of the past.

I like you assertation that Trump is guilty only of winning, when he didn’t win the popular vote, and Vladimir Putin pushed him through the electoral college. He has plenty of crimes to answer for, and he will.
You conservatives, always ask the question, then r... (show quote)


Putin pushed him through the electoral college? Where is your proof of this Tom, the good folks of Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and a handful of other states decided that the democrats were not interested in their welfare, that the democrats were more concerned about their social agenda and climate change than they were in providing a climate of job creation and saving the industries that they work for. When Clinton said she would be closing coal mines but don't worry we will retrain you she destroyed any chance she may have had of becoming president.

You are the one living in an alternate reality Tom.

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Dec 28, 2017 20:20:10   #
KGOldWolf
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yes, I thought that I was replying to McKenneyMike, somehow I don't see him capable of writhing the response that I replied to hence the short fuse and attribution comment. Sorry.


It's not like I never got caught up in the heat of the moment and did the same exact thing! No worries...

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Dec 28, 2017 20:36:37   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What he posted is True Tom, how many times does the media have to get busted with false reporting on Trump because they are using anonymous sources before you begin to realize that you are consuming biased news at its very worst, meaning much of the news you consume is opinion rather than factual reporting... The history of the dossier goes from a through Clinton before it gets to the FBI and it does appear that the FBI may have used it to obtain FISA warrants that started this whole Trump investigation. Right now Nunes has given both the FBI and DOJ till January 3rd to produce witnesses and documents that they have so far refused to produce, where he goes from there it is hard to tell, but we can either expect his pushing for contempt charges or filing lawsuits or both. Trump is not going down Tom, it will be members of the previous administration from various departments that include the FBI and DOJ who end up going down, McCabe was only the first of many.
What he posted is True Tom, how many times does th... (show quote)


Blurry, why do you bother? This is trash, entirely trash, and you participate.

Trump is dirty, profoundly dirty, and it is so obvious I can’t believe you deny it. He’ll get off easy—presidents always do, to save the nation from trauma, but he’s dirty, seriously dirty, and he’s going down.

First off, he is mentally unstable. You’ve seen the cabinet masturbate him in public, then Pence kissing where they worked.

Disgusting.

He has profoundly damaged the party, and Mueller hasn’t spoken yet. And he is a dirty, slimy New York thug, vicious to the end, dishonest, incompetent, bought and paid for by a few streams of urine, a few prostitutes, sexual aggression, and stupidity raised to a grandiose level.

Abandon him, blurry, abandon him or pay the price. He stinks, and the stink worsens.

Abandon all hope, ye who refuse to abandon him now.

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Dec 28, 2017 21:08:24   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Twardlow wrote:
Blurry, why do you bother? This is trash, entirely trash, and you participate.

Trump is dirty, profoundly dirty, and it is so obvious I can’t believe you deny it. He’ll get off easy—presidents always do, to save the nation from trauma, but he’s dirty, seriously dirty, and he’s going down.

First off, he is mentally unstable. You’ve seen the cabinet masturbate him in public, then Pence kissing where they worked.

Disgusting.

He has profoundly damaged the party, and Mueller hasn’t spoken yet. And he is a dirty, slimy New York thug, vicious to the end, dishonest, incompetent, bought and paid for by a few streams of urine, a few prostitutes, sexual aggression, and stupidity raised to a grandiose level.

Abandon him, blurry, abandon him or pay the price. He stinks, and the stink worsens.

Abandon all hope, ye who refuse to abandon him now.
Blurry, why do you bother? This is trash, entirel... (show quote)


The whole prostitute story was debunked a long time ago, someone earlier in this thread made the claim that a video exists of the episode. I would love to see it, except I never will because it does not exist... Tom, you and others here ask that I wait for Mueller, how is it that you folks won't do the same as you have become nothing more than a broken record with your doom and gloom and your forecasting of a president's downfall, it is not going to happen Tom and what will you say and do then?

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Dec 28, 2017 23:24:45   #
cwp3420
 
Twardlow wrote:
Blurry, why do you bother? This is trash, entirely trash, and you participate.

Trump is dirty, profoundly dirty, and it is so obvious I can’t believe you deny it. He’ll get off easy—presidents always do, to save the nation from trauma, but he’s dirty, seriously dirty, and he’s going down.

First off, he is mentally unstable. You’ve seen the cabinet masturbate him in public, then Pence kissing where they worked.

Disgusting.

He has profoundly damaged the party, and Mueller hasn’t spoken yet. And he is a dirty, slimy New York thug, vicious to the end, dishonest, incompetent, bought and paid for by a few streams of urine, a few prostitutes, sexual aggression, and stupidity raised to a grandiose level.

Abandon him, blurry, abandon him or pay the price. He stinks, and the stink worsens.

Abandon all hope, ye who refuse to abandon him now.
Blurry, why do you bother? This is trash, entirel... (show quote)


You really need to seek psychiatric help, Tom. Your posts used to border on crazy, and now you have gone full psychotic. You have blocked so many people on here because of your lunatic ideas that people make posts just about you and laugh at how you are afraid to debate. I imagine you have blocked more people on here than anyone because of your cowardly ways. I think while you’re in full psycho mode you should write a book about Trump, since you are convinced he will destroy America. You could call it “The Rise and Fall of Donald Trump” and use the nom de plume Chicken Little.

I am glad you have gone completely off the rails, though. In three years, at the end of Trump’s first term, we can all gather together your postings and have a good laugh. You give us all the ammunition we need. For instance, Trump is the anti-Christ and will destroy life on earth, Madame President, and “hands up, don’t shoot”. So keep up with the lunatic posts. You are nothing if not entertaining. And personally, it gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling knowing the boys in white are outside your single wide trailer as we speak getting ready to haul your flabby white ass to the rubber room. LOL

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Dec 29, 2017 07:04:43   #
Reddog Loc: Southern Calif
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
No matter what the investigation reveals; good or bad for the President--both parties should respect the integrity of the investigation, and accept the results.
But, the Trump supporters will not accept anything negative.


Anything negative is fake news to the uninformed !

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Dec 29, 2017 08:31:31   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
[quote=Reddog]Anything negative is fake news to the uninformed ![/quote

And I suppose you are the informed, informed by Broken News and not breaking News i suppose. That is so much that can be said by both sides,let's wait for the invetigation to conclude before we call names.

Happy New Year.

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Dec 29, 2017 11:11:37   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
[quote=letmedance][quote=Reddog]Anything negative is fake news to the uninformed ![/quote

And I suppose you are the informed, informed by Broken News and not breaking News i suppose. That is so much that can be said by both sides,let's wait for the invetigation to conclude before we call names.

Happy New Year.[/quote]

Consider this: among the peons who have to work for a living, in the press I mean now, they receive a moderate salary, and their only glory, their goal, their standard of success, the standard against which each and every one of them measures themselves and their colleagues is the Pulitizer.

Despite what you may think, they don’t give the Pulitizer for Fake News.

And when the ex-head of the FBI does an investigation, he does it the was he lived his life, Marine, Republican, Prosecutor, Director of the FBI, in a word—A Man, Answering to Himself and His Life Formed by Achievement and Success.

If his name is Trump, he will sell our for the dollar, for the accolades, for the soft and easy life, without a contribution to anything in his life. After all, Trump was never a Marine, a Republican, a Prosecutor, or Director of Anything—just a useless Paris Hilton who had to stand up to pee instead of sitting down, and wasn’t beautiful.

I trust the Marine, Republican, Prosecutor and ex-Director of the FBI; He Don’t Deal In Fake News!!

What a new experience for some people....

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Dec 29, 2017 11:29:21   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
cwp3420 wrote:
You really need to seek psychiatric help, Tom. Your posts used to border on crazy, and now you have gone full psychotic. You have blocked so many people on here because of your lunatic ideas that people make posts just about you and laugh at how you are afraid to debate. I imagine you have blocked more people on here than anyone because of your cowardly ways. I think while you’re in full psycho mode you should write a book about Trump, since you are convinced he will destroy America. You could call it “The Rise and Fall of Donald Trump” and use the nom de plume Chicken Little.

I am glad you have gone completely off the rails, though. In three years, at the end of Trump’s first term, we can all gather together your postings and have a good laugh. You give us all the ammunition we need. For instance, Trump is the anti-Christ and will destroy life on earth, Madame President, and “hands up, don’t shoot”. So keep up with the lunatic posts. You are nothing if not entertaining. And personally, it gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling knowing the boys in white are outside your single wide trailer as we speak getting ready to haul your flabby white ass to the rubber room. LOL
You really need to seek psychiatric help, Tom. Yo... (show quote)


Blurry, I put my ideas up to scrutiny, observable and measurable by all honest men, presenting Facts as I see them, judging by the lessons life has taught me—not always easy lessons, and perhaps my learning is incomplete, and the lessons I learned not always perfect—but I stand behind the life I have lived, the lessons I have learned, and the errors I have made and learned from.

I ain’t that bright a guy, but I can smell a shyster when enters the room, and I can spot a lie if he tells it 1400 times, and I can spot corruption—it roils my soul, and would the conscience of any honest man—and I can spot a sport taking an easy Billion dollars for corrupting his authority (some of those dollars were mine, remember).

I can spot someone who don’t know Jack Schitt, and ain’t about to learn Jack Schitt.

I can spot that sport folding my money into his wallet, and smilin’ at me as he walks away on his own golf course.

I can spot someone with his finger in the easy money pie.

I can judge a man by the company he keeps, the pussy he grabs, the lies he tells, the money that disappears within his vicinity.

And I can spot a country in steep decline if it follows his direction in spite of his history, his vacuous leadership, his corruption, his crowd of cronies, his confusion, and his mental instability and needful insecurity.

If you can’t do this, if Joe Blow can’t do this either, if Ron Moore and Tom Price are the standards he approves of, and if you second his choices...then my friend, we are in steep decline as a nation, and we deserve no better, no relief, and no respect.

These Are The Times That Try Men’s Souls.

How are we all doing...soulwise?

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Dec 29, 2017 11:47:18   #
KGOldWolf
 
Twardlow wrote:
Blurry, I put my ideas up to scrutiny, observable and measurable by all honest men, presenting Facts as I see them, judging by the lessons life has taught me—not always easy lessons, and perhaps my learning is incomplete, and the lessons I learned not always perfect—but I stand behind the life I have lived, the lessons I have learned, and the errors I have made and learned from.

I ain’t that bright a guy, but I can smell a shyster when enters the room, and I can spot a lie if he tells it 1400 times, and I can spot corruption—it roils my soul, and would the conscience of any honest man—and I can spot a sport taking an easy Billion dollars for corrupting his authority (some of those dollars were mine, remember).

I can spot someone who don’t know Jack Schitt, and ain’t about to learn Jack Schitt.

I can spot that sport folding my money into his wallet, and smilin’ at me as he walks away on his own golf course.

I can spot someone with his finger in the easy money pie.

I can judge a man by the company he keeps, the pussy he grabs, the lies he tells, the money that disappears within his vicinity.

And I can spot a country in steep decline if it follows his direction in spite of his history, his vacuous leadership, his corruption, his crowd of cronies, his confusion, and his mental instability and needful insecurity.

If you can’t do this, if Joe Blow can’t do this either, if Ron Moore and Tom Price are the standards he approves of, and if you second his choices...then my friend, we are in steep decline as a nation, and we deserve no better, no relief, and no respect.

These Are The Times That Try Men’s Souls.


How are we all doing...soulwise?
Blurry, I put my ideas up to scrutiny, observable ... (show quote)

You said: These Are The Times That Try Men’s Souls. How are we all doing...soulwise?[/quote]

Personally, I'm disillusioned. Ive never seen my homeland so angry and polarized. If this is "making America great again", I don't want to be great again. There's too much anger, too much greed; our country is becoming soulless. It is not something new with this administration, it is just accelerating with it.

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