KGOldWolf

Eye - I’m a fairly intelligent person and I think you are as well. Therefore you must realize I am being considerate by not jumping all over your post... as we both know I could.

Let’s consider it a peace offering in the hope that future exchanges will be better for us and for all who participate in UHH.

Best wishes for a Happy & Healthy New Year

EyeSawYou

I think we both are in agreement with a peace offering, let's just hope or pray that if we are successful, that it will permeation throughout the attic and accomplish some degree of peace with all.

KGOldWolf

I am in 100% agreement with you.

There are many here who can contribute if they stay on point and we listen. We can all get a turn at expressing our opinions and beliefs - right, wrong,or indifferent.

We can disagree but let’s all disagree honorably and hopefully learn something in the process.


Best regards,
Ken

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

This post is complete insanity, absolute, uneducated and possibly dishonest insanity. The Russians were massaging the election before the dossier became known.

The dossier was republican funded, then abandoned and taken up by the Clinton campaign as opposition research.

The FISA court had acted sometime before the dossier—possibly as far back as a year ago last July, when a task force began investigating.

No one ever said that the Russians changed the results of the election, just influenced it; they did not change vote totals.

It is a crime to interfere with elections, particularly so for foreigners to do so, and more so for Trump to cooperate with a foreign nation to contaminate a national election.

Clinton did Not fund a fake dossier on Trump. Steele is an experienced and respected intelligence agent, now in business in the same field, doing intelligence investigations for private clients. He is very good at it. As I said before, Clinton took over an abandoned study and funded its completion for opposition research—a perfectly normal and acceptable activity.

The fake dossier was NOT used to get the FISA court involved, even though the FBI validated parts of it.

I don’t know that Comey leaked the dossier; can you document that?

We do not know that Trump didn’t commit a crime, and actually I think he did, and I think it is established. At any rate, Mueller will find out, as his instructions demand.

“However, there are more than one investigation going on and we are finding out that the highest levels of the FBI and the DOJ is an anti-Trump cabal. They are certainly not the cool, detached professionals we always pictured the FBI to be; they are a virulent biased gang of thugs with a badge.” This is complete balderdash. There are two congressional investigations going on, about to be torpedoed by congressional Republicans. FBI agents are under no compulsion to be naive and ignorant about politics; they are allowed to contribute, to vote, and to have political opinions. These think have nothing to do with an investigation—an investigation led by a republican, by the way. It will be up to the courts to decide upon the validity of any evidence produced, and that decision will be advanced by a formal ruling, in writing, subject to review and appeal.

Don’t worry your baby curls about the integrity of the process; things like this happen everyday, and the process, while not perfect, has a sound reputation for reliability.

And... if you were Mueller, you would not be the idiot you prove yourself to be. He will end the end the investigation when he feels it is complete, and no plane trip out of town will be necessary.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Got questions for you Tom, why were Sheryl Mills and Huma Abedin get a walk after lying to the FBI, why was the evidence housed on their computers destroyed with the FBI's blessing? Why was Sheryl Mills, a subject in the investigation allowed to sit in as Hillary's attorney while she was questioned? Why were the DNC computers not turned over to the FBI, is that not a big part of the allegations? The Russian hacking of the DNC computers? Why were they never turned over to the FBI? And then there is this. How can you be such a hypocrite? Evidence abounds of the democrats doing all kinds of criminal activities yet you people say nothing, no evidence has been shown against Trump yet you folks demand that he be put in jail... This is nothing more than a coup attempt by the democrats, and yes it will tear this country apart if you idiots are successful, mark my words Tom, blood will be shed.

KGOldWolf

Blurry - slow down, please be more judicious in what you post; that’s pretty incendiary rhetoric.

I understand your sense of injustice and you make good points but keep two things in mind. First, it was a Trump appointee that ordered and appointed a Special Prosecutor. Second, as I understand it, Mueller can only present his findings to Congress. Only Congress can declare an article of impeachment and only Congress can vote on it. Given that both the Senate and House are controlled be the Republicans, it is highly unlikely that the impeachment would be passed.

I trust the Special Investigator’s process and will accept his findings regardless of outcome just as I did with Clinton and Nixon.

I realize your last post does not threaten or support a degree of civil disobedience bordering on insurrection but, indicating that it would happen provides anyone thinking that way with a sense of justification.... dangerous.

I am NOT interested in debating this. I am only offering my advice as someone who recognizes both your passion and your generally well expressed and informed opinion.

Ken G.

Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast

The question was "Why are the Republicans so desperate to discredit Mueller?"

Let's look at history.

Nixon: Initial crime: Watergate break-in. He resigned and several people went to jail.

Clinton: Initial crime: Vince Foster's death and Whitewater scam. Ken Starr was directed by the overseeing tribunal to investigate Clinton's perjury in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Clinton was impeached but not convicted. He lost his law license for 5 years and paid over $800,000 to Paula Jones.

Bush 43: Initial crime: Valerie Plame's "outing." Colin Powell's deputy Richard Armitage (never punished) was the one who "outed" Plame but Scooter Libby was convicted for having a bad memory.

Trump: Initial crime: Winning the election.

Nuff said.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Blurry, just got back in town and owe you one.

On this: You know when you walk down the street, you probably break a law every 5-10 minutes; a policeman could pull you over every day of the week—failure to signal, driving in the left lane, speeding 2-3 mph, etc. Imprortant part of the job is deciding what to enforce and when to enforce it.

FBI and prosecutors make these decisions every day, but the ones you speak of are subject to review. I don’t know the reasons you question, and I don’t know the cases specifically. This is old stuff, and I’m not even interested. Why was Tom Price given a walk and approved anyway for clear criminal behavior? People go to prison for what he did—you remember who, don’t you?

Blurry, you’re believing that right-wing bull crap about a coup. We had had a coup, and it isn’t Democratic. We had a corrupt and dishonest president sell out to the Russian government because he had some whores piss on the bed in front of some cameras he didn’t know about, but should have.

We have a president who turned the presidency into a profit center, and a law producing machine, for the benefit of himself and his wealthy friends—desplite specifically lying about how tough the law was going to be on him personally and his friends, though he then told them ‘Your’a a lot richer than you were just a little while ago,” after the senate was bought off and the corruption was passed.

I saw two estimates that the Trump family would gain a billion dollars, perhaps a billion and a half, after they bought off Collins and Corker.

The nation is going down, burrry, and if Mueller can’t save us, we’re goners.

Happy decline and collapse.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

I believe you might be incorrect. Mueller has no authority to ignore criminal actions, and If he finds corruption, illegal acts and such things as lying to the FBI and money laundering he can file criminal charges as he did with Manafort and Gates, and could have done with Flynn.

It is an unsettled point of law whether he can file charges against a sitting president, and that will have to be settled, but the settling of it would be a disaster for a Republican Party that is already profoundly damaged.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Vince Foster’s death was never ruled a crime and had nothing to do with Clinton’s impeachment. You fantasize. Ditto Whitewater.

As I remember it Scooter and Cheney outed Plame. Scooter lied and died—good riddance.

Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast

So few words, yet so much wrong.

An unnatural death is a crime, whether suicide or homicide. It was a triggering event, well that and the removal of the Whitewater files from his office right after he died. Whitewater was a not a crime? Really?
Here is a potpourri of convictions related to Whitewater:

Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)


Scooter Libby was never convicted of outing Plame. Richard Armitage was the one who leaked the name and Colin Powell knew it and did nothing to stop this sham. Patrick Fitzgerald knew early on Scooter Libby was not the one who outed Plame, yet he kept on going and caught Libby in a process crime; faulty memory. NYT reporter Judith Miller also stated that Scooter Libby was NOT the person who told her about Valerie Plame and she is the writer of the story that started the whole kerfuffle. I guess you know more about who leaked the name than the person who received the leak in the first place.

And finally, one more error from you, Scooter Libby is not dead. You're 0 for 100, good job.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

I know he isn’t dead. Of. Course. This entire post is a waste of time; you’re living in the past.

Catch up.

Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast

There is so much that you know that is wrong. Continue to ignore the past as you stagger uncomprehendingly into the future.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

In your fantasies....

Please don’t respond.

Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast

Why do you think there's something important about having the last word on a subject?

I was just correcting your numerous inaccuracies, and this last response of yours is just another example of your inaccuracies.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?