Gammy Sandy wrote:
I am a lurking member, morning coffee and this Forum. Have learned so much, many thanks to you all. Going out west next spring and have been yearning to purchase a wide angled lens. I shoot with a Canon 70D and mostly with a 5dsr. The lens that I use for landscapes is the 100-400 II and love it. But I have been looking at photos using a wide angle lens the , Canon 16 -35mmF4 II and also love the wide angled results but don't know if it is truly worth spending the money. Input please, and thank you in advance for your responses.
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Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM ($1000) lens would be an excellent choice. It's the zoom I plan to purchase when I get a 5DS-R (as soon as I win the lottery
... I currently use the EF 20mm f/2.8 USM on my 5DII).
The 16-35mm
f/4 has top image quality, almost equal to that of the f/2.8 III version that costs twice as much ($1999), doesn't have IS and is bigger and heavier. The f/4 also uses a 77mm filter (same as your 100-400mm), rather than the bigger and more expensive 82mm filters the f/2.8 lens requires. The two current 16-35mm have noticeably better IQ than the earlier 16-35mm f/2.8 (original and II), the EF 17-40mm f/4L and the older EF 17-35mm f/2.8L and EF 20-35mm f/2.8L lenses.
The other ultrawide I'd consider is the EF 11-24mm f/4L, but that has a convex front element that precludes using standard filters, is also rather large and heavy, doesn't have IS and costs almost 3X as much ($2699) as the 16-35mm f/4. For architectural photography, if money were no object I'd want the TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt Shift (I already have TS-E 24mm and TS-E 45mm.)
For landscape and most other wide angle work, you probably don't need faster than f/4. In fact, you're very likely going to find yourself stopping down for increased depth of field.... not even using an f/4 lens wide open very often. An exception might be photojournalism or astrophotography or other night shots, when a larger aperture lens might be wanted for a brighter viewfinder (or just use Live View with Exposure Simulation with the f/4 lens). But for much other wide angle shooting, f/4 lenses are fine (and often have better IQ across the frame and in the corners).
See for yourself at
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-16-35mm-f-4-L-IS-USM-Lens.aspx If you click on "Image Quality" there, you can compare highly magnified details of test shots made with any two lenses against each other. You can also compare other image quality factors such as vignetting, flare, distortion.
Comparing the EF 16-35mm f/4L against the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L III, the $1000 lens has shows just a wee bit of chromatic aberration in the extreme corners at the wide end, which the $2000 lens avoids. Keep in mind that CA is pretty easily corrected, in-camera if shooting JPEGs or in post-processing if shooting RAW. And wide open at the 35mm end of their range, the $1000 lens is slightly softer in the extreme corners. But stopping down lessens that and in both cases it's such little difference you would have to be looking at your images at silly magnifications to notice it.
If still uncertain, you might want to rent the 16-35mm f/4L to give it a try. But I bet you end up buying it!
If you prefer primes you might look at the EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM and EF 35mm f/2 IS USM.... Both superb lenses that aren't too big and heavy... and won't break the bank. Or, the older EF 20mm f/2.8 USM (has a wee bit of distortion and isn't quite as sharp in the corners).
I can't imagine shooting landscapes without a wide lens.... while some landscapes can be done with telephotos, I use wide angles for that purpose far, far more often!
20mm and 17-35mm on full frame:
20mm and 10-22mm on APS-C: